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LordV
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 Small Ichneumon I assume, sitting on my car. Taken today South coast UK. Bug about 4mm long not including ovipositor.
Shot taken at 3:1 and focus stacked from 2 shots.
Any ID ideas?
Thanks Brian V.

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 Hi Brian,

My guess would be that this is a member of the family Braconidae.

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 Thanks Jan Smile
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 Jan Willem, how about Alysiinae?
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 Hi Paul,

I don't think this one belongs to the Alysiinae. The mandibles don't seem alysiine-like to me. Furthermore I don't know any Alysiinae with such a narrow first abdominal segment! I'm thinking about Euphorinae, but that is nothing more than a wild guess.

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 There is anOnline keyPfftPfft beginning with the couplet Ichneumonidae/ Braconidae from the Wharton lab if you have a specimen Brian. I think we need the wing venation otherwise (and probably anyway so always try for a dorsal view). But I think this is one you know or you don't know.I don't.

http://hymenoptera.tamu.edu/keys/?taxcpl=cpl&taxcpl_id=2

The Wharton Lab keys are new to me. They are listed here
http://hymenoptera.tamu.edu/keys/

Anyone interested in Tephritidae might like the key on parasitoids of that family.

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 Hi,

Kees van Achterberg (specialist on Braconidae) confirmed my "wild guess". According to him it is probably a species of the genus Meteorus [Braconidae: Eurphorinae].

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 Hi, Very impressive Jan.Obviously a very well informedWink guess .We won't get any higher an authority than Kees so that's it -a species of the genus Meteorus. Nice to have such a good photo.

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 Hi Robert,

Well, I have to admit that I am not entirely unfamiliar with braconids. I have been studying Dutch Opiinae under the supervision of Kees. However that was about 10 years ago. During the last 8 years I have not been studying Braconidae at all. But apparently I still remembered some of the things Kees tried to teach me.

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 C van Achterberg thinks

Euphorinae Meteorus
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 Hi Cthirion,

Kees already told me that you also asked to give his opinion about this specimen! So did I Grin

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 Thanks for all the ID help everyone.
Just for interest , think I might have snapped the male today. Well it looks similar anyway.

static.flickr.com/44/192868008_1ab18bca43_b.jpg
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 WinkGrin!
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 wow! so such impressive images!
 
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