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 Minettia (rivosa/fasciata?)
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| Dmitry Gavryushin |
Posted on 06-07-2006 07:56
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 Member Location: Moscow region, Russia Posts: 3338 Joined: 17.10.05 |
July 04, 2006. Size around 3mm. Could this one be the same as the fly in a thread by Vadet: http://www.diptera.info/forum/viewthread.php?forum_id=5&thread_id=36&pid=102#post_102 Dmitry Gavryushin attached the following image:  [110.15Kb] |
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| Dmitry Gavryushin |
Posted on 06-07-2006 07:57
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Member Location: Moscow region, Russia Posts: 3338 Joined: 17.10.05 |
Another view.
Dmitry Gavryushin attached the following image:  [89.39Kb] |
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| David Gibbs |
Posted on 06-07-2006 11:12
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 Member Location: Bristol, UK Posts: 833 Joined: 17.06.06 |
This is Chamaemyia and looks very like C. fasciata |
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| Dmitry Gavryushin |
Posted on 06-07-2006 11:16
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Member Location: Moscow region, Russia Posts: 3338 Joined: 17.10.05 |
OK many thanks David |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 06-07-2006 11:53
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 Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19403 Joined: 11.05.04 |
This is what I knwo of Chamaemyia with black abdominal bands: * Third antennal segment darkened apically, tarsi completely yellow, as a whole more greyish dusted. -> fasciata * Third antennal segment yellow, last tarsal segment darkened, more yellowish grey dusted. -> elegans I am not quite sure where that leaves us, with apparently all yallow antennae, all yellow tarsi and greyish dusted body. Score 2-1 for fasciata, I guess. Paul - - - - Paul Beuk on https://diptera.info |
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| David Gibbs |
Posted on 06-07-2006 16:45
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Member Location: Bristol, UK Posts: 833 Joined: 17.06.06 |
specimens i have named as fasciata have entirely yellow 1st flagellomere and look just like the above photo. Is there an error in Collin's 1966 key? he says ?More yellowish-grey species with third antennal joint distinctly darkened towards tip?? elegans Pnz. Whitish-grey species with third antennal joint almost entirely yellow?. fasciata Lw.? |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 07-07-2006 07:29
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Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19403 Joined: 11.05.04 |
Well, the family Chamaemyiidae is notoriously difficult. Recent work on the European fauna has only been done by Tanasiichuk and I think I took this from an older work by him. In a more recent work on the Diptera of the Russian Far East (2001) there is one species with banded abdomen and it is refered to as: Ch. fasciata Lw. (elegans Tanas., non Panzer) That might mean that Collin (and you) are right and that I followed a wrong interpretation by Tanasiichuk. I will see if I can find out more. Paul - - - - Paul Beuk on https://diptera.info |
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