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Besseria sp.?
Rui Andrade
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Posted on 14-07-2009 19:20
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I saw many of these tachinids in dunes in Viana do Castelo, North of Portugal. It reminds me of Besseria, could that be correct?

date: 07/07/2009

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i think so imho.
 
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Definitely an excellent picture of a Besseria.
Difficult genus, might be either dimidiata or reflexa


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Posted on 15-07-2009 20:30
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Thanks Jorge and Theo.

Theo, what would you need in order to decide between one of them?
 
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That will be very difficult.
I'll check and come back to you.

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Just a quick quote from T&H:
4. Peristome dusted white. Frontal stripe with a yellow ground colour. Middle tibia with 2 inner bristles, the upper often much weaker. Males: tergite 5 with short upright hairs; cerci-surstyli complex 2 - 3x as long as the epandrium, roof-like developed, inside with a ring of yellow scale hairs. Females: tergites 2 and 3 ventrally with a spine field.................dimidiata Zett.
- Peristome at least in its front half shiny black. Frontal stripe in the ground colour black. Middle tibia with 1 inner bristle. Males: tergite 5 dorsally hairless, smooth and shiny; cerci and surstyli a little shorter than the epandrium, without yellow scale hairs. Females: spine field only present on tergite 2..............reflexa R.D.

So a closer view of the legs or head at different angles would be useful Smile
Edited by ChrisR on 16-07-2009 09:53
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Posted on 17-07-2009 15:54
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Thanks ChrisSmile. I have some specimens with me, later I'll have a look at them.
 
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This was what I had to look up, thanks
This clearly suggests reflexa.
Still, a lateral headshot would be useful


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Posted on 20-07-2009 19:37
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Ok, finally some photos. They show two different specimens.

Specimen 1:

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Here is a photo of the middle left tibia viwed from behind:
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Specimen 2:

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Middle left tibia viewed in this case from the front:
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Posted on 21-07-2009 21:10
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so, definitely dimidiata and not reflexa.

The black on the gena is missing, moreover, the erect hairs on tergite 5 of the male (first specimen) is excellently illustrated !


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Posted on 21-07-2009 21:49
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Thank you for your help Theo! I think it's a new species for Portugal. The only two species known so far are B. lateritia and B. zonaria.
 
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Portugal has been poorly studied (uptill now, of course, guys !) and it is known from Spain. I can't say I'm surprised.


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