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ArnovanStipdonk	#1 Posted on 16-06-2009 20:19
Member Location: Weert - The Netherlands Posts: 192 Joined: 23.05.08	Hello forum, Today I found this beautiful fly in the south of the Netherlands and I can't find it's ID. It looks a lot like a Terellia sp. but which one? Can somebody help me with this one? Regards, Arno ArnovanStipdonk attached the following image: [64.73Kb] Edited by ArnovanStipdonk on 16-06-2009 20:20


Nosferatumyia	#2 Posted on 16-06-2009 22:37
Member Location: Posts: 3404 Joined: 28.12.07	Terellia sp. ex ruficauda aggr. At the moment, I am revising this group, which includes at least 2 similar but different species. Val


ArnovanStipdonk	#3 Posted on 17-06-2009 09:54
Member Location: Weert - The Netherlands Posts: 192 Joined: 23.05.08	Nosferatumyia wrote: Terellia sp. ex ruficauda aggr. Hello Valery, I don't know exactly what you mean with this. It looks like Terellia ruficauda but it is another species? I see little differences. Thanks for your reply. Regards, Arno Edited by ArnovanStipdonk on 17-06-2009 09:55


Nosferatumyia	#4 Posted on 17-06-2009 11:17
Member Location: Posts: 3404 Joined: 28.12.07	In fact, "Terellia ruficauda" in its current sense consists of two different species throughout Europe: one on Cirsium arvense, another on C. palustre, C. canum, C. oleraceum and C. heterophillum; I am proposing to consider the first one as T. ruficauda proprio nomine, and this one as another already named Linnean species, but this whole taxonomical routine involves lectotypes designation, DNA barcoding, a lot of biometrics, very detailed mapping, etc. I have already treated also most of Amsterdam museum specimens and have quite a lot of Dutch localities. Val


ArnovanStipdonk	#5 Posted on 17-06-2009 12:05
Member Location: Weert - The Netherlands Posts: 192 Joined: 23.05.08	Ok, I understand. Thanks a lot! Arno