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 Pallopteridae collected on June 23, 2006
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| Dmitry Gavryushin |
Posted on 23-06-2006 15:38
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 Member Location: Moscow region, Russia Posts: 3303 Joined: 17.10.05 |
Much encouraged by discussion regarding T. trimacula I examined that location again this morning hoping to collect some specimens. Although it seems that sweeping didn't brought me more T. trimacula I was lucky enough to find more flies which IMHO belong to Pallopteridae. First, P. saltuum without any doubts. 2 specimens, size 4-5mm. Dmitry Gavryushin attached the following image:  [89.34Kb] |
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| Dmitry Gavryushin |
Posted on 23-06-2006 15:39
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Member Location: Moscow region, Russia Posts: 3303 Joined: 17.10.05 |
A dorsal view.
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| Dmitry Gavryushin |
Posted on 23-06-2006 15:41
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Member Location: Moscow region, Russia Posts: 3303 Joined: 17.10.05 |
The second fly. This one and all the rest, size around 4mm.
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| Dmitry Gavryushin |
Posted on 23-06-2006 15:42
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Member Location: Moscow region, Russia Posts: 3303 Joined: 17.10.05 |
Another view.
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| Dmitry Gavryushin |
Posted on 23-06-2006 15:43
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Member Location: Moscow region, Russia Posts: 3303 Joined: 17.10.05 |
Another one, lateral view.
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| Dmitry Gavryushin |
Posted on 23-06-2006 15:44
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A dorsal view.
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| Dmitry Gavryushin |
Posted on 23-06-2006 15:46
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Member Location: Moscow region, Russia Posts: 3303 Joined: 17.10.05 |
And the last one, with dark spots on wings. More views available for all of the four. Dmitry Gavryushin attached the following image:  [86.65Kb] |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 23-06-2006 15:48
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 Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19244 Joined: 11.05.04 |
I think the second is Tricholauxania praeusta, but it is difficult to see if there are really small setulae on R1.
Paul - - - - Paul Beuk on https://diptera.info |
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| Dmitry Gavryushin |
Posted on 23-06-2006 15:58
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Member Location: Moscow region, Russia Posts: 3303 Joined: 17.10.05 |
Thanks Paul - it seems my family labels were a bit premature again. Maybe I'll be able to check the details you need. |
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| Jan Willem |
Posted on 23-06-2006 18:23
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 Member Location: Waalwijk, The Netherlands Posts: 2125 Joined: 24.07.04 |
Hello Dima, Dima wrote: It seems my family labels were a bit premature again Not entirely so. The first two pictures are indeed of a pallopterid! These are pictures of Palloptera saltuum (Temnosira saltuum if you like), a male. This species displays sexual dimorphism. Amongst other things the bristles are yellow in the males whereas these are black in the females. Jan Willem |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 23-06-2006 19:06
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Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19244 Joined: 11.05.04 |
I have not been paying attention either. I thought there were only two species here: two pictures of P. saltuum and a series of pictures of a second species. Not it appears that there are more species... Tricholauxania praeusta third and fourth picture (not fully coloured) and last picture (fully coloured). Fifth and sixth picture probably a specie sof Meiosimyza (= Lyciella. Paul - - - - Paul Beuk on https://diptera.info |
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| Dmitry Gavryushin |
Posted on 23-06-2006 20:05
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Member Location: Moscow region, Russia Posts: 3303 Joined: 17.10.05 |
Many thanks Jan and Paul, Well I think that Lauxaniidae are not any worse than Pallopteridae  (for those who cares at all of cause). |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 23-06-2006 22:05
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Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19244 Joined: 11.05.04 |
Black wrote: Well I think that Lauxaniidae are not any worse than Pallopteridae (for those who cares at all of cause).When it comes to identifying them to species, they are worse. If only because there are so many more of them and so many similar ones... Paul - - - - Paul Beuk on https://diptera.info |
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| Jan Willem |
Posted on 24-06-2006 10:30
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Member Location: Waalwijk, The Netherlands Posts: 2125 Joined: 24.07.04 |
Hi, Paul wrote: When it comes to identifying them to species, they are worse. If only because there are so many more of them and so many similar ones... With exceptions like Tricholauxania praeusta which is an easy one. Jan Willem |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 24-06-2006 12:49
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Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19244 Joined: 11.05.04 |
If you only can see the wing well...
Paul - - - - Paul Beuk on https://diptera.info |
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| Dmitry Gavryushin |
Posted on 24-06-2006 19:22
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Member Location: Moscow region, Russia Posts: 3303 Joined: 17.10.05 |
I'll check, maybe there's more images with wing better visible than in this dorsal view... |
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but don't see the image in the post.