Gallery Links
Users Online
· Guests Online: 20

· Members Online: 0

· Total Members: 4,950
· Newest Member: JeffersonA
Forum Threads
Theme Switcher
Switch to:
Last Seen Users
· weia< 5 mins
· Tony Irwin00:11:03
· JCobain00:18:08
· RamiP00:22:06
· Reimund Ley00:23:03
· ESant01:04:08
· smol01:06:13
· Haleun01:09:09
· Carnifex01:21:51
· RE Niks01:25:25
Latest Photo Additions
View Thread
Diptera.info :: Identification queries :: Diptera (adults)
Who is here? 1 guest(s)
 Print Thread
Family ID problems.
Nikita Vikhrev
#1 Print Post
Posted on 03-06-2006 14:31
User Avatar

Member

Location: Moscow, Russia
Posts: 9204
Joined: 24.05.05

Central Turkey, 3 times (24-27may) I collected this fly on forewindow of my (rented) car. Altitiude 1100- 1700, 5,5-6mm.
Looked like greenish Tephritidae with clean wings. But it seems to me that Sc do not reach C.
Nikita Vikhrev attached the following image:


[68.1Kb]
Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University
 
Kahis
#2 Print Post
Posted on 04-06-2006 13:32
User Avatar

Member

Location: Helsinki, Finland
Posts: 1999
Joined: 02.09.04

Tephritidae indeed. Genus Terellia?
Kahis
 
www.iki.fi/kahanpaa
Nikita Vikhrev
#3 Print Post
Posted on 05-06-2006 13:02
User Avatar

Member

Location: Moscow, Russia
Posts: 9204
Joined: 24.05.05

Thank you Kahis.
Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University
 
Nikita Vikhrev
#4 Print Post
Posted on 08-06-2006 17:57
User Avatar

Member

Location: Moscow, Russia
Posts: 9204
Joined: 24.05.05

I remove my Tephritidae in head, because it seems to me that mine and new Tephritidae by elck are of the same genus.
Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University
 
elck
#5 Print Post
Posted on 08-06-2006 18:08
Member

Location: Rotterdam, Netherlands
Posts: 120
Joined: 21.03.05

Sorry, should I have chosen an other title?
Edited by elck on 08-06-2006 18:08
Regards,
Elck (coccinellidae in dutch:http://stippen.nl)
 
http://stippen.nl
Nikita Vikhrev
#6 Print Post
Posted on 08-06-2006 20:16
User Avatar

Member

Location: Moscow, Russia
Posts: 9204
Joined: 24.05.05

If I'mn't mistaken, both our flies are, according Kahis, Terellia sp.
So we have to wait John Smith appiarence to ID.
Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University
 
John Smit
#7 Print Post
Posted on 09-06-2006 16:52
User Avatar

Member

Location: Utrecht
Posts: 565
Joined: 05.10.04

Eheh! And you're expecting and ID from me.....
It is Terrellia alright, the serratulae-species complex.
Three species in western Europe, I'm not entirely sure if there are more in this complex in Turkey. It's not T. fuscicornis, for that one has the third antennal segment black.
But it can be either T. serratulae or T. longicauda, males are practicaly inseperable, females however are separable.
For the males you need to look at the genitalia, hte hairs on the surstyli are mostly longer in T. longicauda and shorter in T. serratulae, but you need reference material and it is not always clear, so you'll need a series of males. So for the next time: collect females!Wink

John
Edited by John Smit on 09-06-2006 16:53
 
http://science.naturalis.nl/smitj
Nikita Vikhrev
#8 Print Post
Posted on 09-06-2006 17:46
User Avatar

Member

Location: Moscow, Russia
Posts: 9204
Joined: 24.05.05

One family - collect male, another - collect female. Once someboby will tell me - collect larva!
Thank you John. One out of two species - not bad. And I'll check, may be I have female collected.
Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University
 
John Smit
#9 Print Post
Posted on 11-06-2006 13:31
User Avatar

Member

Location: Utrecht
Posts: 565
Joined: 05.10.04

Hi Nikita,

It's not even so among different families, but even within one family!
To be on the safe side, just collect series...Wink

John
 
http://science.naturalis.nl/smitj
Jump to Forum:
Similar Threads
Thread Forum Replies Last Post
What family? Diptera (eggs, larvae, pupae) 4 19-02-2024 23:46
Sciaroidea family ID? -> Mycetophilidae Diptera (adults) 3 08-02-2024 13:09
dipteran 3mm, family ID?->Tachinidae(Phasiina/Dexiinaee) Diptera (adults) 7 25-01-2024 19:11
Tephritidae of French Guiana or other family ? (probably Dolichopodidae !!) Diptera (adults) 10 29-12-2023 19:54
Acalyptrata, which family?--> Lonchoptera sp. Diptera (adults) 3 28-12-2023 21:08
Date and time
28 March 2024 15:28
Login
Username

Password



Not a member yet?
Click here to register.

Forgotten your password?
Request a new one here.
Temporary email?
Due to fact this site has functionality making use of your email address, any registration using a temporary email address will be rejected.

Paul
Donate
Please, help to make
Diptera.info
possible and enable
further improvements!
Latest Articles
Syrph the Net
Those who want to have access to the Syrph the Net database need to sign the
License Agreement -
Click to Download


Public files of Syrph the Net can be downloaded HERE

Last updated: 25.08.2011
Shoutbox
You must login to post a message.

07.03.24 00:01
Some flies preserved in ethanol and then pinned often get the eyes sunken, how can this be avoided? Best answer: I usually keep alcohol-collected material in alcohol

17.08.23 15:23
Aneomochtherus

17.08.23 13:54
Tony, I HAD a blank in the file name. Sorry!

17.08.23 13:44
Tony, thanks! I tried it (see "Cylindromyia" Wink but don't see the image in the post.

17.08.23 11:37
pjt - just send the post and attached image. Do not preview thread, as this will lose the link to the image,

16.08.23 08:37
Tried to attach an image to a forum post. jpg, 32kB, 72dpi, no blanks, ... File name is correctly displayed, but when I click "Preview Thread" it just vanishes. Help!

23.02.23 21:29
Has anyone used the Leica DM500, any comments.

27.12.22 21:10
Thanks, Jan Willem! Much appreciated. Grin

19.12.22 11:33
Thanks Paul for your work on keeping this forum available! Just made a donation via PayPal.

09.10.22 17:07
Yes, dipterologists from far abroad, please buy your copy at veldshop. Stamps will be expensive, but he, the book is unreasonably cheap Smile

Render time: 1.13 seconds | 189,854,322 unique visits