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| Gordon |
Posted on 22-10-2008 12:51
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 Member Location: Lake Kerkini, Greece Posts: 1097 Joined: 02.01.08 |
With only 4 known species in Europe you would think there would be a key somewhere. Dryomyza decrepita Dryomyza flaveola - known from Greece Dryomyza senilis Known only from Finland & Sweden Neuroctena anilis Falk 2005 describes Dryomyza decrepita. Can anybody tell me which species are in Stackleberg 1989, Keys to the European Part of the USSR Vol 5. pp 280-281 ??? Thanks Gordon  |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 22-10-2008 13:41
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You should have received an email with a pdf. May look a bit suspicious because it was sent from our company's printer/scanner, but it is quite alright.
Paul - - - - Paul Beuk on https://diptera.info |
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| Gordon |
Posted on 22-10-2008 15:21
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Member Location: Lake Kerkini, Greece Posts: 1097 Joined: 02.01.08 |
Sorry I missed it earlier, Yahoo had filed it as spam, maybe because it had no subject and an attachement called 20081022144316164.pdf Thanks for it anyway. |
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| Gordon |
Posted on 22-10-2008 15:45
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Member Location: Lake Kerkini, Greece Posts: 1097 Joined: 02.01.08 |
Well I have checked 11 specimens from 5 sites/dates and I am not as happy as I should be. I would like to be sure what ta and tp are to start with. Then all my specimens are variable in colour from reddish yellow, or perhaps orange, to clear yellow, the MSN stripes are clearly seen on the darker specimens and absent in the two lightest specimens, but all are the same in having the costal cell obviously darker than the rest of the wing, and there is a hint of a fade-in-to a darker costal edge. Thanks, Gordon |
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| Gordon |
Posted on 23-10-2008 06:59
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Member Location: Lake Kerkini, Greece Posts: 1097 Joined: 02.01.08 |
I have checked another 25 or so specimens now (I have less Sciomyzids than I thought I did) and they are all the same. I think I will order the Falk paper from the NHM and hope there is a genitalia drawing in it. |
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| Gordon |
Posted on 04-11-2008 17:11
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Member Location: Lake Kerkini, Greece Posts: 1097 Joined: 02.01.08 |
Paul, If you have the whole of the Stackleberg 1989 paper can you tell me how he defines ta and tp. In the key it says ta and tp with smoky brown border and then without said border but I do not know what he means by ta and tp. Thanks Gordon |
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| KWQ |
Posted on 21-07-2009 07:07
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Member Location: Turku, Finland Posts: 208 Joined: 10.12.04 |
Are you or some others still interested in the terminology of Bei-Bienko/Stackelberg? I may help in some of the less time-consuming cases, since I have the volumes here at home. Ta and tp mean anterior and posterior crossveins. |
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| Gordon |
Posted on 18-09-2009 14:11
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Member Location: Lake Kerkini, Greece Posts: 1097 Joined: 02.01.08 |
Dear KWQ, Thanks but as all my specimens look clean I am calling them D. flaveola. The only thing that might help would be genitalia for both decrepita and flaveola, but I do not see it as necessary. It might be also nice to see a photo of a wing of decrepita if someone can take one. Gordon Gordon |
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| Gordon |
Posted on 19-09-2009 15:57
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Member Location: Lake Kerkini, Greece Posts: 1097 Joined: 02.01.08 |
Dear All, D. flaveola is recorded from Greece before according to Fauna Europaea, but from where. If anybody has Soos 1984 in Soos, A. and Papp, L. 1984 Catalogue of Palaearctic Diptera 9. pp 152 to 154, I would be grateful if they could check for me, answer here or email me a photocopy of the relevent bit. Thanks a lot, Gordon Edited by Gordon on 19-09-2009 16:00 |
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| phil withers |
Posted on 20-09-2009 01:16
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Member Location: Lyon, France Posts: 521 Joined: 04.03.08 |
There is no record from Greece in Soos and Papp for flaveola |
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| Gordon |
Posted on 20-09-2009 08:49
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Member Location: Lake Kerkini, Greece Posts: 1097 Joined: 02.01.08 |
Gee Thanks Phil,  So where did FE get the record from I wonder, I wish I could make them tell me but as far as I know it is impossible, but I will make another visit.
Edited by Gordon on 20-09-2009 08:53 |
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| Gordon |
Posted on 20-09-2009 08:52
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Member Location: Lake Kerkini, Greece Posts: 1097 Joined: 02.01.08 |
Well it seems the Taxanomic speacialist for Dryomyzidae is one Mr Miguel Carles-Tolrá, but they supply no contact info, do any of you spanish dipterists know how I can contact this man?? Please and Thankyou. |
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