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| Josef Buecker |
Posted on 08-10-2008 14:49
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 Member Location: Hagen, Germany Posts: 616 Joined: 03.02.08 |
Hello Forum, what is the ID of this fly? Hagen, NRW, Germany, alder marshland, 175msm, October 7th 2008 Best wishes, Josef Josef Buecker attached the following image:  [151.66Kb] |
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| Andrzej |
Posted on 08-10-2008 15:25
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Member Location: Poland Posts: 2339 Joined: 05.01.06 |
look like Palloptera usta for me but obviously Pallopteridae member but you should wait for Jan answer  Andrzej |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 08-10-2008 16:18
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 Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
Palloptera ustulata not Palloptera usta. |
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| Andrzej |
Posted on 08-10-2008 17:40
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Member Location: Poland Posts: 2339 Joined: 05.01.06 |
I'm not sure but Jorges ID is not correct for me. According to the picture gallery and the Key to the Europaean Russian part the crossveins by P. ustulata are not tinged nor dusted Andrzej |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 08-10-2008 19:31
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
Andrzej wrote: I'm not sure but Jorges ID is not correct for me. According to the picture gallery and the Key to the Europaean Russian part the crossveins by P. ustulata are not tinged nor dusted Andrzej hmm.. Andrzej, I was fixing... not IDing. it is not certainly ustulata. But I WAS WRONG. There is really a P. usta.  Errare humanum est. |
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| Jan Willem |
Posted on 09-10-2008 09:26
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 Member Location: Waalwijk, The Netherlands Posts: 2125 Joined: 24.07.04 |
I agree with Andrzej.
Jan Willem van Zuijlen |
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| Andrey Ozerov |
Posted on 04-03-2009 19:58
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Member Location: Posts: 63 Joined: 05.06.06 |
I think it is Toxoneura venusta (Loew) |
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| viktor j nilsson |
Posted on 01-11-2009 20:21
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Member Location: Gothenburg, Sweden Posts: 203 Joined: 25.02.08 |
From Bei-Bienko: Posterior half of frons with snow white coating, Mesonotum brownish yellow. Wings with dark spot on subcostal cell, broad brown border in apical half of wing [...] and similar broad border on posterior crossvein.... Palloptera venusta. Hence, I think Andrey Ozerov is right to think this is Toxoneura (or, Palloptera) venusta. On a side note: this once again makes me think that one almost never should trust the keys in Bei-Bienko when it comes to describing the colour of the thorax, I guess different colours of brown is notoriously hard to translate from russian into english? |
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| Nosferatumyia |
Posted on 01-11-2009 21:19
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I think the expertize of Andrey is more than enough. Toxoneura venusta.
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but don't see the image in the post.