Diptera.info :: Identification queries :: Diptera (adults)
 Calliphoridae, Protophormia terraenovae?
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| Jan Zwaaneveld |
Posted on 08-08-2008 16:40
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Member Location: Leerdam, Netherlands Posts: 721 Joined: 20.02.06 |
I found this fly (appr. 8-10 mm) on 26th July in a small wood at Heukelum, Netherlands. I think it could be Protophormia terraenovae. Could anyone confirm or correct my id? Thank you in advance! Pic 1 Jan Zwaaneveld attached the following image:  [123.32Kb] http://slamenietd...web-log.nl |
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| Jan Zwaaneveld |
Posted on 08-08-2008 16:41
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Member Location: Leerdam, Netherlands Posts: 721 Joined: 20.02.06 |
Pic 2
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| Jan Zwaaneveld |
Posted on 08-08-2008 16:41
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Member Location: Leerdam, Netherlands Posts: 721 Joined: 20.02.06 |
Pic 3
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| Susan R Walter |
Posted on 08-08-2008 18:53
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 Member Location: Touraine du Sud, central France Posts: 1802 Joined: 14.01.06 |
The black wing bases and very dark undusted blue body indicate Protophormia and the head profile indicates terranovae.
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| Jan Zwaaneveld |
Posted on 08-08-2008 20:31
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Member Location: Leerdam, Netherlands Posts: 721 Joined: 20.02.06 |
O.k. Susan, thanks very much for your help.
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 08-08-2008 22:36
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 Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9536 Joined: 24.05.05 |
In Russia Protophormia is much more common than in warm Europe. Usually Protophormia has more bluish color, but may be greenish, like this one. But this one isn't Protophormia: both calypteres should be very dark; scutum has to be somewhat flatterned dorsoventraly; too much presutural setae. Susan, may be some Protocalliphora? Nikita Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 09-08-2008 09:20
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 19286 Joined: 21.07.04 |
I'm not an expert, but last month I saw a lot of Protophormia in Kyrgyzstan. And my impression as well is that this is Protocalliphora. Maybe a flash made some shade over the calyptra ? Or some other dirty trick ? Theo |
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| Jan Zwaaneveld |
Posted on 09-08-2008 10:54
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Member Location: Leerdam, Netherlands Posts: 721 Joined: 20.02.06 |
Hmm, I'm quite sure I didn't use flash on this one. Thank you for your remarks, Nikita and Theo. Susan, do you agree now that this is Protocalliphora? http://slamenietd...web-log.nl |
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| Susan R Walter |
Posted on 09-08-2008 11:50
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Member Location: Touraine du Sud, central France Posts: 1802 Joined: 14.01.06 |
Dunno - I had real reservations about it too - I thought it was too hairy, the antennae too short and the calypters too yellow for Protophormia too - that's why I didn't out and out state it was Protophormia. Probably should just not post when I am tired  I'm not really that familiar with Protophormia either, so am happy to concede to you guys who do see it more often. What puzzles me though is the apparently black wing bases and lack of dusting - Protocalliphora should have brown wing bases and quite a bit of dusting. Is this perhaps a very dark, very fresh Protocalliphora?
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 09-08-2008 16:52
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Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9536 Joined: 24.05.05 |
Sorry, Susan, in my turn, I have near zero experiens in Protocalliphora 
Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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| Jan Zwaaneveld |
Posted on 09-08-2008 20:03
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Member Location: Leerdam, Netherlands Posts: 721 Joined: 20.02.06 |
Sounds like this is going to be a very difficult one 
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