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 Dutch Hybomitra; with *NEW* photo's
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| Cor Zonneveld |
Posted on 04-08-2008 19:42
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 Member Location: Amstelveen, the Netherlands Posts: 840 Joined: 14.10.06 |
I saw this male (yeh, I learned it!) in a garden of a farm in Drenthe, the Netherlands. Surrounded by mostely agricultural fields, but also some cows etc. It's Hybomitra, so probably difficult. But I was striken by the tapering abdomen, a form I don't see in Stubbs & Drake. Any chance at an ID?
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| Cor Zonneveld |
Posted on 04-08-2008 19:42
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Member Location: Amstelveen, the Netherlands Posts: 840 Joined: 14.10.06 |
Not too sharp, but showing the shape of the abdomen quite well
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 04-08-2008 19:48
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 19307 Joined: 21.07.04 |
It is either H. muehlfeldi or H. ciureai. The greyish first antennal segment favours the first. However, the abdominal spots reaching tergite 4 and the time in the year (suppossing it is from this week) clearly favours the last. So.... Theo |
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| Cor Zonneveld |
Posted on 04-08-2008 19:58
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Member Location: Amstelveen, the Netherlands Posts: 840 Joined: 14.10.06 |
Other photo's? I'll look for antennal details, who knows?
Thanks for your attention Cor Zonneveld |
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| Cor Zonneveld |
Posted on 04-08-2008 20:00
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Member Location: Amstelveen, the Netherlands Posts: 840 Joined: 14.10.06 |
This one shows a bit more. And yes, it was from 3 August. Stubbs & Drake mention for muehlfeldi 'the black median band has conspicuous grey triangles.' These are not that conspicuous in this specimen. Does that add in favor of H ciureai? Cor Zonneveld attached the following image:  [91.54Kb] Edited by Cor Zonneveld on 04-08-2008 20:09 Thanks for your attention Cor Zonneveld |
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| Cor Zonneveld |
Posted on 04-08-2008 20:09
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Member Location: Amstelveen, the Netherlands Posts: 840 Joined: 14.10.06 |
dorsal shot
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| Cor Zonneveld |
Posted on 05-08-2008 20:02
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Member Location: Amstelveen, the Netherlands Posts: 840 Joined: 14.10.06 |
pushing it up; turnover so rapid
Thanks for your attention Cor Zonneveld |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 05-08-2008 20:10
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 19307 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Stubbs had little material to go on. The dusting on the scutellum suggests ciureai. That's how far I'll go. If you have collected it, look at the size of the upper facets in the eye (picture is not sharp enough). Theo |
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| Cor Zonneveld |
Posted on 05-08-2008 21:11
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Member Location: Amstelveen, the Netherlands Posts: 840 Joined: 14.10.06 |
OK, thanks for the explanations! I hope you can live with Hybomitra cf ciureai!?
Thanks for your attention Cor Zonneveld |
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