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Sochi4. Calliphorida.
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Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 05-03-2006 22:19
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Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9344 Joined: 24.05.05 |
It seems to me that I've never seen before this fly with yellowish-metallic-green body. Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 07-03-2006 18:31
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Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9344 Joined: 24.05.05 |
While waiting for Theo, I add dorsal vue of same Calliphorida. Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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Zeegers |
Posted on 07-03-2006 19:47
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18805 Joined: 21.07.04 |
You seem to think I'm the expert, which I'm not in these groups. It might very well be a Muscidae. The bend in vein M is very blunt / obtuse, which is quite unusual in Calliphoridae. However, there are some atypical Calliphoridae. In my knowledge, none of them is greenish, but I may be mistaken. So, best guess is Muscidae. Theo Zeegers |
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Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 07-03-2006 23:27
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Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9344 Joined: 24.05.05 |
Thank you Theo. I'll search among Muscidae. Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 08-03-2006 17:12
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Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9344 Joined: 24.05.05 |
Searching among Muscidae lead me to Dasyphora (penicillata?).
Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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Zeegers |
Posted on 09-03-2006 20:54
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18805 Joined: 21.07.04 |
I have to pass, but this could be right. Dasyphora is the typical green Muscid I think its current name is Neomyia, by the way. Theo |
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Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 13-03-2006 21:02
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Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9344 Joined: 24.05.05 |
Theo, I checked current sources, penicillata is still Dasyphora, not Neomyia. But this Dasyphora is not D.penicillata. This fly has only 1 pair ac. The only Dasyphora with 1 pair ac in European part Russia Diptera key is D.asiatica Zimin (Middle Asia, possibly on Caucas). Nikita Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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Zeegers |
Posted on 15-03-2006 21:29
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18805 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Actually, there prove to be more genera, like Pyrellia and even Eudasyphora. Your ID as Dasyphora asiatica does not sound promising, giving the distributional pattern. So start again at the key to genera for Muscini, would be my advise. Good luck Theo Zeegers |
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Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 16-03-2006 14:29
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Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9344 Joined: 24.05.05 |
Thank you Theo. It seems to me that my today morning visit in Moscow Zool Musem gave final answer about this fly. Dasyphora. In case of D.asiatica I had to search for strong ac before thorax saturum. In this case no presaturum ac and 2 pair heta on sides of scutellum. So, Dasyphora pratorum. Nikita Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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