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Sochi4. Calliphorida.
Nikita Vikhrev
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It seems to me that I've never seen before this fly with yellowish-metallic-green body.
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While waiting for Theo, I add dorsal vue of same Calliphorida.
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You seem to think I'm the expert, which I'm not in these groups.

It might very well be a Muscidae.
The bend in vein M is very blunt / obtuse, which is quite unusual in Calliphoridae. However, there are some atypical Calliphoridae.
In my knowledge, none of them is greenish, but I may be mistaken.

So, best guess is Muscidae.


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Thank you Theo.
I'll search among Muscidae.
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Searching among Muscidae lead me to Dasyphora (penicillata?).
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I have to pass, but this could be right.

Dasyphora is the typical green Muscid

I think its current name is Neomyia, by the way.


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Theo, I checked current sources, penicillata is still Dasyphora, not Neomyia. But this Dasyphora is not D.penicillata. This fly has only 1 pair ac. The only Dasyphora with 1 pair ac in European part Russia Diptera key is D.asiatica Zimin (Middle Asia, possibly on Caucas).
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Actually, there prove to be more genera, like Pyrellia and even Eudasyphora.
Your ID as Dasyphora asiatica does not sound promising, giving the distributional pattern. So start again at the key to genera for Muscini, would be my advise.

Good luck


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Thank you Theo.
It seems to me that my today morning visit in Moscow Zool Musem gave final answer about this fly.
Dasyphora.
In case of D.asiatica I had to search for strong ac before thorax saturum. In this case no presaturum ac and 2 pair heta on sides of scutellum. So, Dasyphora pratorum.
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