Diptera.info :: Identification queries :: Diptera (adults)
 Phaonia (subventa?)
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| Robert Heemskerk |
Posted on 24-04-2008 13:15
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hi flyforum, Last week I found this Muscidae sp., a Phaonia sp. I think. Is Phaonia subventa a good option? Robert Heemskerk attached the following image:  [140.51Kb] Greeting, Robert Heemskerk ---- WWW: http://robertheem...ndedag.htm --- |
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| Robert Heemskerk |
Posted on 24-04-2008 13:15
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pict 2
Robert Heemskerk attached the following image:  [107.74Kb] Edited by Robert Heemskerk on 24-04-2008 13:15 Greeting, Robert Heemskerk ---- WWW: http://robertheem...ndedag.htm --- |
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| Robert Heemskerk |
Posted on 24-04-2008 13:18
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some more detail
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 26-04-2008 15:30
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I think so
Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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| Robert Heemskerk |
Posted on 26-04-2008 22:59
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Thank you Nikita, I'll notice as Phaonia subventa. Greeting, Robert Heemskerk ---- WWW: http://robertheem...ndedag.htm --- |
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| Robert Heemskerk |
Posted on 27-04-2008 01:26
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And this is the female?
Robert Heemskerk attached the following image:  [135.06Kb] Edited by Robert Heemskerk on 27-04-2008 01:27 Greeting, Robert Heemskerk ---- WWW: http://robertheem...ndedag.htm --- |
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| Stephane Lebrun |
Posted on 27-04-2008 10:35
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With 3 posterior setae on mid tibiae, it can't be Phaonia subventa. It is either P. bitincta or P. rufiventris. With only one presutural pair of ac, t1 without posterior setae and frons without interfrontals, it has to be P. rufiventris.
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| Robert Heemskerk |
Posted on 27-04-2008 12:19
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Hi Stephane, Your reaction is mostly on the last picture i think? Female (first picutres) got also 3 posterior setae, I cannot see interfrontals. She got also one presutural pair of ac (what I can see..) Male (last picture) got 3 posterior setae, no interfrontals in forehead. I don't know what you meant with t1 without posterior setea? So, the male must be P. rufiventris? in your opinion? Nice reaction, fine to know some details about these flies. Robert Heemskerk attached the following image:  [148.08Kb] Edited by Robert Heemskerk on 27-04-2008 12:20 Greeting, Robert Heemskerk ---- WWW: http://robertheem...ndedag.htm --- |
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| Stephane Lebrun |
Posted on 27-04-2008 15:11
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I was talking only about your last fly (the female, just above my first reply). t1 = tibia 1 (fore tibia). Stephane. |
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