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 Thai26. Fly with anlarged foretabia.
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 24-01-2006 10:03
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 Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9513 Joined: 24.05.05 |
Khao Khitchikut, on the dead frog, 7-8 mm. 
Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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| Gerard Pennards |
Posted on 24-01-2006 10:31
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 Member Location: Amersfoort Posts: 1914 Joined: 07.06.04 |
Hello Nikita, This one reminds me of family Ephydridae, genus Ochthera! We have a speciesa here, Ochthera mantis. Greetings Greetings, Gerard Pennards |
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| Robert Nash |
Posted on 24-01-2006 10:39
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Member Location: Ulster Museum, Belfast, Ireland Posts: 288 Joined: 11.11.05 |
Yes Octhera mantis.Have only seen this fly once.On reeds at the edge of Lough (Lake) Neagh here in Ireland. Although it is often figured in works on Diptera I have seen very few in collections.Nice photo of a nasty fly. See how it got it's name. |
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 24-01-2006 14:28
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Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9513 Joined: 24.05.05 |
Than Ephydridae. Ochthera sp. Thank you Gerard and Robert. My test, the absence of sources about Orintal flies, makes the task to create photoguide even more interesting. This fly is collected, so may be Marina Krivosheina give me species name. Nikita Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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| Robert Nash |
Posted on 24-01-2006 14:59
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Member Location: Ulster Museum, Belfast, Ireland Posts: 288 Joined: 11.11.05 |
Should have said cf. (means compare with or close to) mantis although definitely Octhera. Could be another species but it is exactly like mine but now I look also very like Ochthera anatolikos a U.S.A. species which is pictured on Diptera Info/ Weblinks /Image Galleries /Insects of Cedar Creek.Sleepy Robert |
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| Robert Nash |
Posted on 24-01-2006 15:11
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Member Location: Ulster Museum, Belfast, Ireland Posts: 288 Joined: 11.11.05 |
Checked a bit more The Bishop Museum Catalogue of Australasian and Oceanian Diptera (closer to you in SE Asia)http://hbs.bishopmuseum.org/aocat/aocathome.html doesn't yet list Ephydridae  . I'm sure they (Bishop Museum) would help if you can collect one. Raining here Robert |
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 24-01-2006 17:15
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Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9513 Joined: 24.05.05 |
Yes, I know this site. It seems that Ochthera isn't rare in Oriental. Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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| Kahis |
Posted on 24-01-2006 20:27
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 Member Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 1999 Joined: 02.09.04 |
Robert Nash wrote: Yes Octhera mantis.Have only seen this fly once.On reeds at the edge of Lough (Lake) Neagh here in Ireland. Although it is often figured in works on Diptera I have seen very few in collections.Nice photo of a nasty fly. See how it got it's name. Whoa wait wait, are you serious?!?!?  Octhera mantis is common all over Finland and it's found wherever there is surface water through the year. It especially loves peat bogs so I guess it may be a species of acidic soils and water. There's often a few (but seldom more) mantis in the net after sweeping back and forth a few times over suitable wet surfaces. My yearly 'catch' must be in the thousands. Our 2nd species, O. manicata is very rare and has been collected only a few times from the ?land islands between Finland and Sweden. Kahis |
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