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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 08-03-2008 09:41
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 Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9356 Joined: 24.05.05 |
In our exchange of material I've got from Gerard Pennards this wonderful Suillia from Madeira, end of Jan. Meso- and pteropleura with hairs, 8-12mm. S.innotata or S.oceana? Nikita Vikhrev attached the following image:  [147.34Kb] Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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| phil withers |
Posted on 08-03-2008 14:12
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Member Location: Lyon, France Posts: 521 Joined: 04.03.08 |
If oceana, it should have the tip of the palp blackened. If the scutellum is hairy all over, it's tuberiperda; if not it could be either notata or innotata: genitalia to be sure. |
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 08-03-2008 14:23
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Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9356 Joined: 24.05.05 |
Thank you Phil. Than Suillia oceana, apical half of palpi are blackish. I didn't find in www any trace of any key or discription, do you have some? Nikita Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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| phil withers |
Posted on 08-03-2008 16:27
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Member Location: Lyon, France Posts: 521 Joined: 04.03.08 |
I am (slowly) working on a revison of Suillia, and use my key (to the British fauna), parts of Die Fliegen and Gorodkov...plus my own collection !. There are some synonyms that require confirmation, and at least one new species. I'll publish it one day (I've been saying that for 15 years !) |
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 08-03-2008 19:16
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Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9356 Joined: 24.05.05 |
I am (slowly) working on a revison of Suillia Phil, I wish you finish this job faster  Nikita Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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| phil withers |
Posted on 09-03-2008 01:08
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Member Location: Lyon, France Posts: 521 Joined: 04.03.08 |
A slightly less than subtle hint ! I will try my best to get something out in 2008 - but don't hold me to it ! |
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| Andrzej |
Posted on 10-03-2008 12:28
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Member Location: Poland Posts: 2372 Joined: 05.01.06 |
Hi !. There are two species described from Madeira !. And both have darkened palpus (blackish at the apical half  S. innotata and S. oceana !. and botha re very similar in lateral view !. Andrzej |
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 10-03-2008 13:02
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Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9356 Joined: 24.05.05 |
Thank you Andrzej. And what is the difference between this two species? Nikita Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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