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Scathophagidae - Scathophaga ... (female)
Liliane D
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Posted on 19-11-2024 12:58
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Hello,
In the south of France on 17 November 2024.
The body is about 8 mm long.
Thank you for your help with the identification
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John Carr
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Not Lauxaniidae. I think it is one of the pale Scathophaga.
 
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Liliane D
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Thank you very much John,
This is the first time I see a scathophagidae in my garden.
If I have understood correctly there are 26 species in France! For now, I am eliminating S. furcata because I don’t see a grey band on the femur 1. I am also eliminating S. stercoraria because the one I photographed is not hairy enough.
Think we can see a female?
Are the Scathopha all coprophages?
 
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See https://scathopha...ecies.info. The identification guide for the British Isles should work in France most of the time. You may have some additional species.

Quoting that page: "The family are often known as `dung-flies', but this is not a particularly appropriate name because only about five or six species in the genus Scathophaga are actually dung breeders."
Edited by John Carr on 19-11-2024 16:50
 
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Liliane D
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Posted on 19-11-2024 19:09
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Thank you for this information,
I am not comfortable enough with English to browse the site.
With so many species I do not think my photos show the criteria that allow to go to the species.
It’s already very interesting for me to discover a new family and a new genus in my garden. And to know that the reputation of the Scathophaga is not always fair Wink
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