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Haematopota italica ? pandazisi ? North-western France
BLecaplain
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Posted on 05-09-2024 12:12
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Hello,

I created a post on the forum Le Monde des Insectes with this Haematopota identified as italica.
With the Chvàla, I have a little doubt now. Because of the first antennal segment quite brown (blackish-grey in italica) and abdomen brown too.
Could it be an other species (pandazisi for exemple) ?

In alcohol :

www.galerie-insecte.org/galerie/image/dos344/big/P6142148.JPG
Benoît Lecaplain : France : Lassy : 35580 : 30/07/2018
Altitude : NR - Taille : 11 mm
Réf. : 344689

www.galerie-insecte.org/galerie/image/dos344/big/P6142151.JPG
Benoît Lecaplain : France : Lassy : 35580 : 30/07/2018
Altitude : NR - Taille : 11 mm
Réf. : 344690

www.galerie-insecte.org/galerie/image/dos344/big/P6142153.JPG
Benoît Lecaplain : France : Lassy : 35580 : 30/07/2018
Altitude : NR - Taille : 11 mm
Réf. : 344686

In collection :

www.galerie-insecte.org/galerie/image/dos344/big/P6192239.JPG
Benoît Lecaplain : France : Lassy : 35580 : 30/07/2018
Altitude : NR - Taille : 11 mm
Réf. : 344687

www.galerie-insecte.org/galerie/image/dos344/big/hae_ital.jpg
Benoît Lecaplain : France : Lassy : 35580 : 30/07/2018
Altitude : NR - Taille : 11 mm
Réf. : 344688

We have a little constriction (clearly visible) on first antennal segment. Femora light brown. In a moor.
Thanks for your help,
Benoît
Edited by BLecaplain on 11-09-2024 13:27
 
BLecaplain
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Posted on 09-09-2024 22:07
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Comparaison between italica (left) and this Haematopota. First antennal segment is more brown.
But this tabanid was in alcohol since 4 years. Maybe coloration is not a good criteria ?
Edited by BLecaplain on 11-09-2024 13:55
 
BLecaplain
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Posted on 11-09-2024 13:57
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more parallel too and slighty longer
BLecaplain attached the following image:


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Edited by BLecaplain on 11-09-2024 13:58
 
BLecaplain
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Posted on 11-09-2024 14:03
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pandazisi = rotundata ? Maybe a strict southern repartition ?
Mentionned by Séguy in 1926 in north western France (named variegata)
https://academic.oup.com/jme/article-abstract/7/5/543/2222086?redirectedFrom=fulltext
"The result of the last mentioned record is that the common South European species of Haematopota known as variegata F. must be named pandazisi Krob., 1936."
 
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