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| javanerkelens |
Posted on 19-02-2008 23:41
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 Member Location: Netherlands Posts: 2962 Joined: 18.10.07 |
Can anybody tel my more about this fly... It was teaken last summer and it was about 4 mm. Greatings Joke javanerkelens attached the following image:  [165.43Kb] Edited by javanerkelens on 19-02-2008 23:43 |
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| javanerkelens |
Posted on 19-02-2008 23:44
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Member Location: Netherlands Posts: 2962 Joined: 18.10.07 |
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javanerkelens attached the following image:  [187.8Kb] |
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| Kahis |
Posted on 19-02-2008 23:49
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 Member Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 1999 Joined: 02.09.04 |
I'd say #1 Calobata petronella #2 Neria cibaria Both Micropezidae. Of course, if you are sure it's the same fly in both pictures, I may have to revise my opinion 
Edited by Kahis on 19-02-2008 23:52 Kahis |
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| javanerkelens |
Posted on 19-02-2008 23:57
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Member Location: Netherlands Posts: 2962 Joined: 18.10.07 |
I realy thought they where the same  Thanks very much....I'm very happy now !! Greatings Joke |
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| Andre |
Posted on 20-02-2008 01:22
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 Member Location: Tilburg, the Netherlands Posts: 2111 Joined: 18.07.04 |
Isn't cibaria called Compsobata? And only ephippium called Neria? How's the nomenclature nowadays? By the way: the first I agree, since the yellow 'shoulders' are clear to see. But I think it's too risky to name the second one. |
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| Andrey Ozerov |
Posted on 20-02-2008 09:37
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I agree with Dr. Kahis. First is Calobata petronella (L.), second - Neria cibaria (L.) |
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| Kahis |
Posted on 20-02-2008 09:46
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Member Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 1999 Joined: 02.09.04 |
No 'Dr.' please
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| Xespok |
Posted on 20-02-2008 10:58
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 Member Location: Debrecen, Hungary Posts: 5550 Joined: 02.03.05 |
You should change your name to Dr. Kahis
Gabor Keresztes Japan Wildlife Gallery Carpathian Basin Wildlife Gallery |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 20-02-2008 14:27
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 Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9295 Joined: 05.06.06 |
Here in Portugal those who have a degree are treatened as Dr. like me.  As Kahis I don't like this Dr. |
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| javanerkelens |
Posted on 20-02-2008 14:27
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Member Location: Netherlands Posts: 2962 Joined: 18.10.07 |
Isn't cibaria called Compsobata? And only ephippium called Neria? How's the nomenclature nowadays? In the Checklist of Diptera is standing: Neria=Compsobata cibaria=cothurnata and trivialis commutata=nigricornis ephippium femoralis (And that are the fly's of the Netherlands) And the foto's where taken by my sister and she told me that it where differend fly's, taken on differend days on a field somewere in Amsterdam. Anybody many thanks...Joke (also from my sister Alie)
Edited by javanerkelens on 20-02-2008 14:31 |
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| Kahis |
Posted on 20-02-2008 17:58
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Member Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 1999 Joined: 02.09.04 |
javanerkelens wrote: In the Checklist of Diptera is standing: commutata=nigricornis This synonym is incorrect. N. nigricornis is a valid north boreal species. Kahis |
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| javanerkelens |
Posted on 20-02-2008 18:08
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Member Location: Netherlands Posts: 2962 Joined: 18.10.07 |
Indeed, it was written after the name, but I did't see it at first. commutata=nigricornis(Zetterstedt,1838): misident.sencu auct. Joke
Edited by javanerkelens on 20-02-2008 18:34 |
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| Kahis |
Posted on 20-02-2008 18:43
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Member Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 1999 Joined: 02.09.04 |
See Andersson H. (1989) Taxonomic notes on Fennoscandian Micropezidae (Diptera). Notulae Entomologicae, 69, 153-162. As far as I know, the status of the species have not changed after this paper. Shouldn't Paul be happy when possible mistakes are corrected 
Kahis |
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