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| Sundew |
Posted on 17-02-2008 11:55
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 Member Location: Berlin and Baden-Württemberg, Germany Posts: 3916 Joined: 28.07.07 |
Hello, Among the visitors of Berlin ivy in October I saw this grey fly with a brownish scutellum tip. The latter character made me think of Muscina. However, there are some shadowy wing veins that I have not seen in the genus yet. So I prefer to ask before I chose a wrong name. Thanks, Sundew Sundew attached the following image:  [192.59Kb] Edited by Sundew on 17-02-2008 21:37 |
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| Stephane Lebrun |
Posted on 17-02-2008 12:01
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 Member Location: Le Havre, France Posts: 8248 Joined: 03.03.07 |
To make a Muscina you should have reddish scutellum apex and vein M1+2 bent. This seems to be the very common Phaonia tuguriorum. Stephane. |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 17-02-2008 13:11
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 Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9295 Joined: 05.06.06 |
Stephane Lebrun wrote: To make a Muscina you should have reddish scutellum apex and vein M1+2 bent. This seems to be the very common Phaonia tuguriorum. THAT bent is very soft..  not so sharp like Musca for example.  |
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| Xespok |
Posted on 17-02-2008 14:43
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 Member Location: Debrecen, Hungary Posts: 5550 Joined: 02.03.05 |
Also for most Muscina the legs are dark, or at least partly dark (stabulans).
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| Sundew |
Posted on 17-02-2008 20:49
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Member Location: Berlin and Baden-Württemberg, Germany Posts: 3916 Joined: 28.07.07 |
Aha - that very common Phaonia tuguriorum hadn't crossed my path yet. Your explanations are very helpful, and I'll try my new knowledge in the next thread concerning Phaonia. Many thanks to all, Sundew |
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