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Gordon Jar
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Posted on 11-01-2006 16:49
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Can anyone assist me with this fly.
Photographed in my garden in south east England during October 05. I haven't seen one before or since.

Many thanks
Gordon
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Paul Beuk
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I think it is one of the Heleomyzidae.
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a female of Suillia
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I see the humeral (postpronotal) seta is missing. The wing does not appear to maculate. Can you narrow down to species or species group on the basis of the leg colour (pale, last two tarsal segments blackish)?
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Maybe it is S. bicolor, but I am not sure, the first flagellomere is less than ?pubescent, costal spines very short, nothing about scutellum (should be covered by pale hairs ... The plaural and maesonotal colouration in this species is more than variable.
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Gordon Jar
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Posted on 12-01-2006 18:42
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Many thanks. It is a new family for me.

I think I understand most of the comments except ' maesonotal colouration'. I can't find reference to this. So excuse my ignorance but could you explain what this is ?

Thankyou

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Spelling should be 'pleural and mesonotal', meaning the lateral and dorsal parts of the thorax before the scutellum.
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Rigth !,
Paul corrected it profesionally !
mesonotum and pleura is correct !. As regard first flagellomere I mean the arista !!! Sorry, it's my fault !. Smile
Sometimes I make mistakes. I am only a human being !

Errare humanum est ! (a latin sentence)Wink
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Andrzej wrote:
Sometimes I make mistakes. I am only a human being !


LoL, did you just find out or is it a shout of disappointment? PfftPfftPfft
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Ha !
re: Nil humanum a me alienum esse puto !.
PfftPfft
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And to me. Pfft
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I'm so sorry !. There is a second part of a sentence: I am a human being; nothing human is strange to me !
Andrzej Wink
 
Gordon Jar
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Thankyou very much.

'The man (or woman) that never makes a mistake, never makes anything'

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Dear Gordon,
Thanks for your warm words !
Andrew
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