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Helomyzidae serrata or breviciliata
Luc Elshout
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Posted on 05-02-2024 17:00
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Hello,
Last month I caught this specimen in Limburg, the Netherlands. In a limestonequarry.
What species is this? We are confused by the key of Czerny, what should be the wimpern?
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Luc Elshout

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John Carr
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Quoting Czerny's description of H. breviciliata:

"Randborsten der Flügel äußerst kurz, unter den ebenfalls kurzen Wimpern ganz ver­ schwindend."

I believe Randbosrsten (Flügelrandborsten) are the bristles on the costa typical of Heleomyzidae, while Wimpern in the context of a wing are the small hairs found on the costa of many flies.
 
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Luc Elshout
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Hello John,
Thanks for your reply. Then it should be serrata. Does anyone know if there is a difference in genitalia? Or is that not known or is there no difference?
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Luc Elshout

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Andrzej
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Heleomyza serrata (L.)
dr. A. J. Woznica, Institute of Environmental Biology, Wroclaw University of Environmental & Life Sciences
 
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