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 Two different Phaonia's ??
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| javanerkelens |
Posted on 12-02-2008 20:47
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 Member Location: Netherlands Posts: 2962 Joined: 18.10.07 |
I made several photographs of according to me the same fly.. But at home, it proved to be nevertheless two different fly's.  Are both Phaonia species ?? The first fly seems to have no apicaal brushes at the frontleg, also is it more grey at the top of the scutum, whit les brushes And it seems that the M1 vein is differend. I hope that someone can help...  Greatings Joke javanerkelens attached the following image:  [124.52Kb] |
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| javanerkelens |
Posted on 12-02-2008 20:48
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Member Location: Netherlands Posts: 2962 Joined: 18.10.07 |
The second fly..
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| Xespok |
Posted on 12-02-2008 20:53
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I think it is the same species, but Muscida not Phaonia.
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 12-02-2008 20:54
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 Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
Muscina sp.  |
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| javanerkelens |
Posted on 12-02-2008 21:11
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Member Location: Netherlands Posts: 2962 Joined: 18.10.07 |
I am astonishes... So you can see, that a mistake is easy to make whit a foto  Many thanks !!! Joke |
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| Jan Zwaaneveld |
Posted on 12-02-2008 21:14
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Member Location: Leerdam, Netherlands Posts: 721 Joined: 20.02.06 |
The lack of orange, except for the tip of the scutellum, seems to point to Muscina levida, but I think you would need a good view of the face, to establish if the palps are black as well, to be sure.
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| javanerkelens |
Posted on 12-02-2008 21:30
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Fortunately...I had another photo of the face....
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| Jan Zwaaneveld |
Posted on 12-02-2008 22:13
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Member Location: Leerdam, Netherlands Posts: 721 Joined: 20.02.06 |
Because of the overall dark appearance my vote goes to levida.
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| javanerkelens |
Posted on 12-02-2008 22:38
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Member Location: Netherlands Posts: 2962 Joined: 18.10.07 |
Many thanks !! I think it is time for me that I learn more about the Muscidae, but there is so little to find in books or determination files about Muscidae.. Now I am only learning from my mistakes and to look good at photo's from others and from the Diptera Gallery.. Greatings Joke |
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