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Phaonia rufiventris?
Heiko Nier
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Posted on 02-12-2023 18:39
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Hello,

I discovered this fly on July 4th, 2017 on a building near Skärsnäs (southern Sweden), at lake “Immeln”.
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Hello Heiko, I think this is a dark male of Phaonia pallida which is not unusal. Amongst other characters P. rufiventris has only 1 pair of presutural acr while P. pallida has two.
(see Review of the Phaonia pallida group, Nikita E. Vikhrev, Elena A. Erofeeva)
Edited by eklans on 02-12-2023 19:46
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Heiko Nier
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Posted on 03-12-2023 11:32
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Hello Eric,

OK, but P. pallida. I had initially considered this species, but I found the dark grey-black coloring on the upper side of the thorax a bit irritating.
But I'm not an expert either.

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Nikita Vikhrev
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Presently I'm a little bit far from the Palaearctic region.
But I agree with Eric and I'm happy that publication of Elena and I is useful.
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Threskiornis aethiopicus?
Very useful publication! We want more TumbsUp
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Nikita Vikhrev
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Mostly Threskiornis aethiopicus, partly Platalea leucorodia, Zway Lake.
Thank you, Eric! New publications are coming.
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