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Helophilus sp, Hungary, April 2007
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Just a drab H. pendulus or something more interesting?
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Another view.
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And another view.
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A more typical H. pendulus for comparison from May.
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Another view of the second ind.
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The head with the characteristic dark stripe.
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H. hybridus female.. PS: you compared it with a male pendulus if I see it correctly Wink
 
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I missed this point completely. I need to resex all my H. images. Actually it started to get suspicious that I always photograph females. It is probably easier to separate males and females by the shape of their abdomen. If pointed - females, if straightish - males.

But why do you think the first one is hybridus? I see that the two flies are very different, but I do not know what is relevant and what is not.
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Helophilus is one of the few genera where males have the eyes separated like the females (though they stay a little closer to eachother than in females). Yes, the shape of the abdomen is the next best character.
Sorry for my omission: view the tip of the femur 3 and base of tibia 3: hybridus femur with only a very small area yellow, the rest black. Base of tibia is about 1/4 yellow in hybridus, instead of 2/3.
 
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