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Rhinophoridae? --> very likely fem. Stevenia atramentaria (now Calliphoridae)
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Posted on 30-07-2023 15:25

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this fly took a rest on a leaf close to our garden hedge. My guess would be that it might belong to the Rhinophoridae family. Is that correct?

Leaf near a garden hedge in Germany, Southern Bavaria, Munich (-West), 30.07.2023, app. 6-8 mm

Greetings, Uli
ukursawe attached the following image:

Edited by ukursawe on 30-07-2023 17:52
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Posted on 30-07-2023 16:53

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Hi Uli, from what I see, it's rather likely a female Stevenia atramentaria, now Calliphoridae - Rhinophorinae.
Greetings, Eric Kloeckner
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Posted on 30-07-2023 17:50

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Hi Eric,

thank you very much for the identification. I was not aware of the taxonomic change (though it seems like that was already valid in the 1960ies), but Stevenia would have been my favourite too.

Thanks and greetings, Uli
Jan Willem
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Posted on 31-07-2023 13:04
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Hello Eric,

This "new" classification seems not to be widely accepted yet. On Fauna Europaea for example Rhinophoridae is still shown as a separate family. And Pollenia is still mentioned as genus within the Calliphoridae. Not sure what classification should be followed at the moment.

Jan Willem van Zuijlen
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Posted on 31-07-2023 13:41

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Hello Jan Willem and thank you for your thoughts about this "new" classification.
I'm afraid Fauna Europaea is not up-to-date in these cases, based on this articles:
1. Rhinophorinae
"Monophyletic blowflies revealed by phylogenomics" by Liping Yan et al incl. Thomas Pape (taxonomic specialist and group coordinator FE) from 2021

2. Polleniidae:
"Reclustering the cluster flies (Diptera: Oestroidea, Polleniidae)"
by Cerretti et al from 2019

Greetings, Eric Kloeckner
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