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Robert Heemskerk
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hi flyforum,

This afternoon, I found this fly on bark of Ash.
It looks like Fannia to me but I am not sure.

Size ~8mm
place: Amsterdam forest
temperature: 5 degrees
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Fannia don't have 4 dc beyond suture. It's a Muscidae, I think Hebecnema. In this case, it should be Hebecnema nigra with white parafacialia, entirely black legs and virtually bare eyes.
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Thank you Stephane, for your explanation.
I have watched several Fannia's and they have less dc beyond suture (mostly 3?).
The suture isn't always good visible on these Fannia sp.? (just a bit)

Is Hebecnema nigra a winter species? or a early spring species?

My second Muscidae sp. in winter, so far.
 
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Fannia have not a well marked suture indeed, and 2+3 dc. Other differences are : arista never plumose (only Piezura have into Faniidae), wing venation particular (especially Sc, A1 and A2).

Hebecnema nigra flight period is said IV-IX, so this one is two months earlier than usual.
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