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Rhagio Pyrenees > Rhagio grandis Szilady, 1934
Luc Elshout
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Posted on 12-03-2023 14:19
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Is this Rhagio tringarius? I know it from Northwest Europe but don't know spanish species.
2022-07-31 Queralbs (ES) Elevation ca. 2100m

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Edited by Luc Elshout on 12-03-2023 21:22
Yours sincerely,
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Posted on 12-03-2023 15:23
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Hi Luc,

Probably a very exciting species. Could you please make a pic if the wing ?

Theo
 
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and a frontal of the head ?
 
Luc Elshout
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Hello Theo,
Thank you for your reaction.
Yes, I have these pictures:

observation.org/media/photo/63136346.jpg
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Posted on 12-03-2023 20:51
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Thanks..
It is Rhagio grandis, a forgotten species or the eastern Pyrenees.
The type is lost (Budapest, 1956). This specimen might serve as neotype (to be published), that is, if you are willing to donate it to Naturalis.

Great find !

Theo
 
Luc Elshout
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Posted on 12-03-2023 21:17
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Wow! That's great! Thank you for the identification Theo. Good that I wanted to have it checked.
Of course that is all right. I will see if I come by soon, otherwise I can give it with somebody or send it by post, but that is maybe a bit tricky.

Yours sincerely,
Luc Elshout

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Great, thank you.

Maybe Saturday Burger’s Bush EISdag ?
Otherwise, another time.

let’s switch to PM to exchange email adreesses.

Theo

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libor
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Posted on 13-03-2023 12:36
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Theo, and Rhagio "tringarius" from Portugal is true tringarius?
Libor
 
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I guess so.

Rh. grandis is, so far, restricted to eastern Pyrenees and one mountain in Asturias.

Theo
 
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I just had a quick glance on biodiversidadvirtual portal and yes, most, if not all, “tringarius” from Spain are indeed just that .., tringarius.

Theo
 
libor
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Thanks for your reply. I will keep my three Portugese tringarius under that name,
Libor
 
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