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 Philygria cf. stictica(Tony Irwin; Roger Thomason); SW Spain
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| Andre Burgers |
Posted on 28-02-2023 16:47
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 Member Location: Minas de Riotinto, Huelva Province, Spain Posts: 990 Joined: 23.04.10 |
I found this strange fly on a young Citrus tree. Looks like Drosophilidae with very dark wing venation. Minas de Riotinto, February 27, 2023. ¡Saludos! 
Andre Burgers attached the following image:  [299.33Kb] Edited by Andre Burgers on 28-02-2023 21:23 errare humanum est sed perseverare diabolicum |
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| Roger Thomason |
Posted on 28-02-2023 17:23
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 Member Location: Mossbank,Shetland Isles. Posts: 5174 Joined: 17.07.08 |
Ephydridae I think [maybe-ish] and if so possibly a Philygria sp. as a guess [as usual] |
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| Andre Burgers |
Posted on 28-02-2023 17:31
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Member Location: Minas de Riotinto, Huelva Province, Spain Posts: 990 Joined: 23.04.10 |
Roger Thomason wrote: Ephydridae I think [maybe-ish] and if so possibly a Philygria sp. as a guess [as usual] Your guess is my certainty.  My first photos of a specimen belonging to this family. Thanks, once again, Roger!!! errare humanum est sed perseverare diabolicum |
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| Tony Irwin |
Posted on 28-02-2023 17:42
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 Member Location: Norwich, England Posts: 7062 Joined: 19.11.04 |
I agree with Roger's guess - but I don't recognise the species.
Tony ---------- Tony Irwin |
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| Andre Burgers |
Posted on 28-02-2023 17:52
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Member Location: Minas de Riotinto, Huelva Province, Spain Posts: 990 Joined: 23.04.10 |
Tony Irwin wrote: I agree with Roger's guess - but I don't recognise the species. Perfect, Tony! I can remove this 'possible'. There are 8 species in Spain: Philygria femorata Philygria flavipes Philygria interrupta Philygria interstincta Philygria obtecta Philygria posticata Philygria stictica Philygria vittipennis Thanks!
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| Tony Irwin |
Posted on 28-02-2023 20:25
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Member Location: Norwich, England Posts: 7062 Joined: 19.11.04 |
Could be Philygria stictica, but the small appendix on vein M is unusual in my experience.
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| Andre Burgers |
Posted on 28-02-2023 21:21
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Member Location: Minas de Riotinto, Huelva Province, Spain Posts: 990 Joined: 23.04.10 |
Thanks Tony. Yes , this appendix is strange. Are there more species with this appendix or could it be some genetic error? Edited by Andre Burgers on 01-03-2023 15:28 errare humanum est sed perseverare diabolicum |
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| Tony Irwin |
Posted on 01-03-2023 09:50
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Member Location: Norwich, England Posts: 7062 Joined: 19.11.04 |
In Philygria punctatonervosa there are many short appendices on the veins, and "mistakes" can occur in other species. In Parydra, quite a long appendix occurs on R2+3 in a wide range of species, though it can be absent in some individuals.
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| Andre Burgers |
Posted on 01-03-2023 15:33
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Member Location: Minas de Riotinto, Huelva Province, Spain Posts: 990 Joined: 23.04.10 |
So theses appendices are of low value for their identification. Thanks for the explanation! errare humanum est sed perseverare diabolicum |
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