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 Reichertella geniculata (ID Colobo); SW Spain
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| Andre Burgers |
Posted on 11-12-2022 16:33
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 Member Location: Minas de Riotinto, Huelva Province, Spain Posts: 1033 Joined: 23.04.10 |
Maybe a Reichertella??  Photo from Minas de Riotinto (Huelva); October 15, 2020. Thanks! Andre Burgers attached the following image:  [284.74Kb] Edited by Andre Burgers on 20-12-2022 15:53 errare humanum est sed perseverare diabolicum |
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| Andre Burgers |
Posted on 11-12-2022 16:33
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Member Location: Minas de Riotinto, Huelva Province, Spain Posts: 1033 Joined: 23.04.10 |
2nd:
Andre Burgers attached the following image:  [289.56Kb] errare humanum est sed perseverare diabolicum |
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| Jan Willem |
Posted on 16-12-2022 08:18
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 Member Location: Waalwijk, The Netherlands Posts: 2125 Joined: 24.07.04 |
Looks like Scatopse notata, but let someone with more experience with this family respond. :-)
Jan Willem van Zuijlen |
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| eklans |
Posted on 16-12-2022 11:38
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Member Location: Franconia, Germany Posts: 3407 Joined: 11.11.18 |
What do you think of Ferneiella incompleta, male? The wing venation and "dull, densely microtrichiose wings" from Bibionid and Scatopsid Flies, Freeman & Lane, 1985 Greetings, Eric Kloeckner |
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| Colobo |
Posted on 16-12-2022 12:27
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Member Location: Switzerland Posts: 79 Joined: 03.05.07 |
Your first idea was correct, Andres. Most certainly Reichertella geniculata. |
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| Jan Willem |
Posted on 16-12-2022 16:01
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Member Location: Waalwijk, The Netherlands Posts: 2125 Joined: 24.07.04 |
Ah, indeed, the wing venation is totally wrong for Scatopse notata.
Jan Willem van Zuijlen |
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| Colobo |
Posted on 16-12-2022 21:59
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Member Location: Switzerland Posts: 79 Joined: 03.05.07 |
Not totally wrong, Jan Willem, as the wing venation is quite similar in both species. However in Scatopse notata there is an indication of a short translucent anterior vein arising from slightly angled M1 in direction of R4+5, which is not present in R. geniculata. Ferneiella incompleta has also a stump vein arising from M1 anteriorly, but it is differently shaped. The accentuated terminal rounded bend of very long R4+5 is also characteristic of R. geniculata. |
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| Andre Burgers |
Posted on 19-12-2022 13:38
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Member Location: Minas de Riotinto, Huelva Province, Spain Posts: 1033 Joined: 23.04.10 |
Well, Jan Willem, eklans & Colobo, this is a very interesting conversation.  And a nice boost for my self-esteem.  Thanks, the three of you! errare humanum est sed perseverare diabolicum |
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| Jan Willem |
Posted on 19-12-2022 14:03
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Member Location: Waalwijk, The Netherlands Posts: 2125 Joined: 24.07.04 |
Jan Willem van Zuijlen |
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but don't see the image in the post.