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Hydroteae meridionalis or close: mistery
MikelAlexander34
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Posted on 17-11-2022 22:06
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Hello. These specimens were collected in pastures with cattle in North Spain in 2020. The males were identified as H. meridionalis according to the key of Nikita Vikhrev (2013). However, I have done DNA barcoding and do not match, should be other species.

I suspect that they are other species that I am not aware of.

Does anybody have an idea of the possible species? Any attemps?

Many thanks in advance. I appreciate comments.
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It doesn't look a million miles from Nikita's photo of Hydrotaea borussica in the Gallery... https://diptera.i...to_id=3309 plus..

http://www.spessa...ssica.html
Could be wrong, it won't be the first time, or the last Smile

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Nikita Vikhrev
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Mid femur shows that it is not borussica. Either meridionalis or pandellei
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1. t3 fits well meridionalis
2. Of course, meridionalis and pandellei are very close species.
3. Rarely pandellei has abdomen widely yellow.
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