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Black fly ID? -> Phaonia sp
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Posted on 22-09-2022 21:08
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On Phragmites in a small forest lake.

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Probably Muscidae
 
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thank you John!

Greetings Ole
 
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Not sure, but remarkably long antenna gives impression of Phaonia longicornis.
Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University
 
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Hi Nikita
upload extra picts: showing hind tibia bristles more clear - and halters not yellow but light (and out of focus) compare to this thread: https://diptera.info/forum/viewthread.php?forum_id=5&thread_id=30213
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Ole, I just wanted to correct my reply: I mean Ph. angulicornis
As for your doubts.
1. Now we are sure that it is Phaonia.
2. I'll compare your images with museums specimens (we have a large material of Ph. angulicornis and reply again next week.
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Thanks Nikita!
I'm looking forward to it.

greetings Ole
 
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I'd say that your Phaonia is not angulicornis.
Female Ph. angulicornis looks as on photo.
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Then for now Phaonia sp. - Too bad I didn't catch it.

thanks for the photo of P. angulicornis - and for trying!
Greetings Ole
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