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 Rhagionidae: Chrysopilus laetus
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| HTK |
Posted on 29-07-2022 20:33
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Member Location: Mechernich-Satzvey (near Cologne), Germany Posts: 226 Joined: 16.05.13 |
Mechernich-Satzvey (Rhineland / Germany), 13 July 2022, in our garden, half hidden on the leaves of garden flowers close to a pond. Rather small, definitely not more than 1 cm. Can you help me with the ID? Possibly Chrysopilus luteolus or Chrysopilus nubecula? Thanks a lot in advance! Image 1 HTK attached the following image:  [223.23Kb] Edited by HTK on 30-07-2022 21:29 |
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| HTK |
Posted on 29-07-2022 20:34
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Member Location: Mechernich-Satzvey (near Cologne), Germany Posts: 226 Joined: 16.05.13 |
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| HTK |
Posted on 29-07-2022 20:36
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Member Location: Mechernich-Satzvey (near Cologne), Germany Posts: 226 Joined: 16.05.13 |
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| Sundew |
Posted on 30-07-2022 01:10
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 Member Location: Berlin and Baden-Württemberg, Germany Posts: 3799 Joined: 28.07.07 |
That's a tricky male! According to the key in https://www.resea...hagionidae luteolus males have yellow tergites with at most a narrow dark band at the front edge. In the other two species of the luteolus group (nubecula and laetus) the tergites are said to have broad darker transverse bands. In your male, the posterior half of the abdomen is dark, the anterior half light. If we decide on "dark transverse bands", we are stuck, however, because now the shape and size of the clypeus is species-decisive. And you don't have a close-up of the face. So possibly laetus or nubecula or, less probable, a miscoloured luteolus (?)... Maybe Theo has an idea! Best wishes, Sundew |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 30-07-2022 16:12
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 17833 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Check the very red side of thorax, clearly a male Ch. laetus. Yes, a view on the clypeus would have been nice, but in this case ... Theo |
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| HTK |
Posted on 30-07-2022 22:03
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Member Location: Mechernich-Satzvey (near Cologne), Germany Posts: 226 Joined: 16.05.13 |
Sundew and Theo, thank you very much for your dedicated discussion. Sorry, no frontal view was possible, as there were several leaves of the big borage plant in the way and the fly stubbornly retained its position. Best wishes, Hans Theo |
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