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Tachinidae identification/ Smidtia conspersa
GAREL Jean-Michel
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Posted on 26-04-2022 11:37
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Hi,
this Tachinidae was observed on april 14th in the north of Yonne department (France). Could it be a Phorocera assimilis ? Thanks for your expertise.
www.galerie-insecte.org/galerie/image/dos300/big/Tach6%201404.jpg
Jean-Michel GAREL : France : Brannay : 89150 : 14/04/2022
Altitude : NR - Taille : 6 environ
Réf. : 300666
Edited by GAREL Jean-Michel on 28-04-2022 11:01
 
eklans
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Posted on 26-04-2022 15:41
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Hello Jean-Michel, I'm pretty sure, you are right with P. assimilis and it's a male
Greetings, Eric Kloeckner
 
GAREL Jean-Michel
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Thanks Eric for your confirmation.
With my best wishes, Jean-Michel Garel.
 
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Posted on 26-04-2022 20:50
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General jizz is more like Smidta conspersa (to me): more red on scutellum, shorter and bulkier third antennal segment, prae-alar seems strong (though, agreed, out of focus) and no obvious fold to bend of vein m )(idem)


Theo
Edited by Zeegers on 27-04-2022 07:33
 
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Thank you once again, Theo! I was in doubt - mainly because of the very red scutellum, the 3 dark stripes near the pre ac... But the Smidtia conspersa didn't come to my mind. Sorry Jean-Michel!
Greetings, Eric Kloeckner
 
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The exclusively white hairs on backside of head (behind occipital row) is relatively rare in Goniini/eryciini and hence a good clue.

Theo
 
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Here's a male Smidtia conspersa (distinct characters marked) + Phorocera assimilis from my garden.
(we can also see the bronze lustre of the Smidtia)
eklans attached the following image:


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Edited by eklans on 27-04-2022 11:43
Greetings, Eric Kloeckner
 
GAREL Jean-Michel
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Posted on 28-04-2022 11:03
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All my thanks for your expertise Theo Zeegers.
Greetings, Jean-Michel Garel.
 
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Eklans pics very nicely show the more elongated abdomen, so characteristic for Phorocera and Exorista, but difficult to describe.

You need a carpenter’s eye, as we say in Dutch.


Theo
 
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