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 Tachinidae identification/ Smidtia conspersa
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| GAREL Jean-Michel |
Posted on 26-04-2022 12:37
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Member Location: Posts: 233 Joined: 18.12.19 |
Hi, this Tachinidae was observed on april 14th in the north of Yonne department (France). Could it be a Phorocera assimilis ? Thanks for your expertise.  Jean-Michel GAREL : France : Brannay : 89150 : 14/04/2022 Altitude : NR - Taille : 6 environ Réf. : 300666 Edited by GAREL Jean-Michel on 28-04-2022 12:01 |
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| eklans |
Posted on 26-04-2022 16:41
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Member Location: Franconia, Germany Posts: 3540 Joined: 11.11.18 |
Hello Jean-Michel, I'm pretty sure, you are right with P. assimilis and it's a male
Greetings, Eric Kloeckner |
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| GAREL Jean-Michel |
Posted on 26-04-2022 17:10
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Member Location: Posts: 233 Joined: 18.12.19 |
Thanks Eric for your confirmation. With my best wishes, Jean-Michel Garel. |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 26-04-2022 21:50
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18647 Joined: 21.07.04 |
General jizz is more like Smidta conspersa (to me): more red on scutellum, shorter and bulkier third antennal segment, prae-alar seems strong (though, agreed, out of focus) and no obvious fold to bend of vein m )(idem) Theo Edited by Zeegers on 27-04-2022 08:33 |
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| eklans |
Posted on 26-04-2022 22:08
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Member Location: Franconia, Germany Posts: 3540 Joined: 11.11.18 |
Thank you once again, Theo! I was in doubt - mainly because of the very red scutellum, the 3 dark stripes near the pre ac... But the Smidtia conspersa didn't come to my mind. Sorry Jean-Michel!
Greetings, Eric Kloeckner |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 27-04-2022 08:35
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18647 Joined: 21.07.04 |
The exclusively white hairs on backside of head (behind occipital row) is relatively rare in Goniini/eryciini and hence a good clue. Theo |
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| eklans |
Posted on 27-04-2022 12:41
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Member Location: Franconia, Germany Posts: 3540 Joined: 11.11.18 |
Here's a male Smidtia conspersa (distinct characters marked) + Phorocera assimilis from my garden. (we can also see the bronze lustre of the Smidtia) eklans attached the following image:  [142.19Kb] Edited by eklans on 27-04-2022 12:43 Greetings, Eric Kloeckner |
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| GAREL Jean-Michel |
Posted on 28-04-2022 12:03
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Member Location: Posts: 233 Joined: 18.12.19 |
All my thanks for your expertise Theo Zeegers. Greetings, Jean-Michel Garel. |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 28-04-2022 15:30
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18647 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Eklans pics very nicely show the more elongated abdomen, so characteristic for Phorocera and Exorista, but difficult to describe. You need a carpenter’s eye, as we say in Dutch. Theo |
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