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Tachina? Unsure, from southern France=> Tachina cf praeceps
clovis
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Posted on 13-02-2022 16:06
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Dear all,

I collected this female at the entrance of the Verdon canyon. It gives me little difficulty.

Following keys (central european key to genus, Ceretti to species) I find T praeceps, as sintergite 1+2 has white pilosity. But abdominal pattern doesn't look like picture I find on internet for this species.
So, is it an not represented pattern or did I go wrong on something?
Abdominal pattern look more like Nowickia's, but tibiae are definitly red.


www.galerie-insecte.org/galerie/image/dos298/big/IMG_5674.JPG
clovis : France : Moustiers-Sainte-Marie : 04360 : 20/05/2021
Altitude : 489 m - Taille : 11mm
Réf. : 298159

www.galerie-insecte.org/galerie/image/dos298/big/IMG_5684.JPG
clovis : France : Moustiers-Sainte-Marie : 04360 : 20/05/2021
Altitude : 489 m - Taille : 11mm
Réf. : 298160

www.galerie-insecte.org/galerie/image/dos298/big/IMG_5703.JPG
clovis : France : Moustiers-Sainte-Marie : 04360 : 20/05/2021
Altitude : 489 m - Taille : 11mm
Réf. : 298164
Edited by clovis on 21-02-2022 22:45
 
Zeegers
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Posted on 13-02-2022 18:45
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So, is it female .
Is the wing uniformily brownish by any chance ?

Theo
 
clovis
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Posted on 14-02-2022 09:42
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Nope, wings are not really brownish, only nervation on distal half of the wing (basal part is yellowish)
 
clovis
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Posted on 20-02-2022 21:25
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So not possible to id for a female I guess? Is genera right?
 
Zeegers
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Posted on 21-02-2022 08:14
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It is definitely Tachina, I am just not sure if it is praeceps.


Theo
 
clovis
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Posted on 21-02-2022 12:51
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Nice many thanks!
I'll stay on cf then?
Could other pictures help?
 
Zeegers
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Posted on 21-02-2022 14:37
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More pics won’t help. The oics are fine, the specimen is aberrant Smile

If first sternite really has white hairs, it should be praeceps.
But no female praeceps in my collection come close to this one.

Theo
 
clovis
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Posted on 21-02-2022 22:49
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I have no doubts on color of first sternite: 100% white acepte 2 small apical setules.
I'll stay on this species with little doubts, and hope to find normal specimens!
Many thanks for you helpfull opinion!!!! Grin
 
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