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 Phaonia cf. subventa and Phaonia sp. (Muscidae)
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| Rui Andrade |
Posted on 26-12-2007 19:33
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 Member Location: Portugal Posts: 3123 Joined: 19.06.07 |
I found this fly in Barcelos, Portugal. It seems to me that it belongs to the family Muscidae but I'm not sure. The last picture shows a different specimen and I don't know if it's the same species. I think it may be a different species because the postpronotum is of a different colour. date: 2007/12/26    
Edited by Rui Andrade on 03-01-2008 20:15 |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 26-12-2007 19:44
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 Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
Phaonia sp.? |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 26-12-2007 20:08
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
the last seems to be different comparing with the above flies.  |
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| Stephane Lebrun |
Posted on 26-12-2007 23:00
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 Member Location: Le Havre, France Posts: 8248 Joined: 03.03.07 |
The first fly should be Phaonia subventa (short-haired arista, t1 with one posterior seta, t2 with two post. setae).
Stephane. |
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| Rui Andrade |
Posted on 26-12-2007 23:38
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Member Location: Portugal Posts: 3123 Joined: 19.06.07 |
When you say t1 and t2 are you refering to tibia (sorry, I'm not very used to this terminology)? The next photo shows the mid tibia. Are the red arrows pointing to the two setae you refer? And how you name the setae that the green arrow is pointing to?  |
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| Stephane Lebrun |
Posted on 26-12-2007 23:51
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Member Location: Le Havre, France Posts: 8248 Joined: 03.03.07 |
Yes, t1 is tibia 1 (fore tibia) etc. Sorry for the abbreviations. The 2 posterior setae are correctly pointed by the red arrows. The green arrow point to the "preapical dorsal seta". This doesn't matter in this case. Greetings. Stephane. |
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| Rui Andrade |
Posted on 27-12-2007 00:04
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Member Location: Portugal Posts: 3123 Joined: 19.06.07 |
Thank you very much Stephane for your explanations . |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 27-12-2007 00:07
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
you must look to the legs of those ladies! Don't forget!   |
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| Rui Andrade |
Posted on 28-12-2007 00:21
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Member Location: Portugal Posts: 3123 Joined: 19.06.07 |
Stephane Lebrun wrote: The first fly should be Phaonia subventa (short-haired arista, t1 with one posterior seta, t2 with two post. setae). Should I write the name as Phaonia cf. subventa? No one mentioned anything about the last photo. Is it Phaonia? |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 28-12-2007 00:30
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
yep. Phaonia sp. the first is Phaonia subventa almost sure as Stephane appointed very well. |
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| Rui Andrade |
Posted on 28-12-2007 01:03
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Member Location: Portugal Posts: 3123 Joined: 19.06.07 |
Thanks Jorge |
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