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 Phaonia perdita, Muscidae, Hungary, April 2007
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| Xespok |
Posted on 20-12-2007 21:13
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 Member Location: Debrecen, Hungary Posts: 5550 Joined: 02.03.05 |
This is maybe an easily identifiable Mucid. Phaonia sp?
Xespok attached the following image:  [136.66Kb] Edited by Xespok on 20-04-2008 06:32 Gabor Keresztes Japan Wildlife Gallery Carpathian Basin Wildlife Gallery |
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| Xespok |
Posted on 20-12-2007 21:14
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Member Location: Debrecen, Hungary Posts: 5550 Joined: 02.03.05 |
Another view of the same fly.
Xespok attached the following image:  [100.32Kb] Gabor Keresztes Japan Wildlife Gallery Carpathian Basin Wildlife Gallery |
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| Stephane Lebrun |
Posted on 21-12-2007 19:10
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 Member Location: Le Havre, France Posts: 8248 Joined: 03.03.07 |
I would say a male Phaonia perdita.
Stephane. |
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| Xespok |
Posted on 23-12-2007 23:47
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Member Location: Debrecen, Hungary Posts: 5550 Joined: 02.03.05 |
Hi Stephan, This fly seems to have 2 strong ac. This should rule out perdita, should not it? For a male Phaonia this has very broad space between eyes. On the other hand what other species has this feature. But the description seems to otherwise fit. The only image of P. perdita that I could see here: [url?http://popgen.unimaas.nl/~jlindsey/commanster/Insects/Flies/Muscidae.html]Web site bz J lindsey from Holland.[/url] I think this site is not relaible as judged by some of the Muscid photos that are probably not even Muscids. Gabor Keresztes Japan Wildlife Gallery Carpathian Basin Wildlife Gallery |
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| Stephane Lebrun |
Posted on 24-12-2007 00:21
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Member Location: Le Havre, France Posts: 8248 Joined: 03.03.07 |
Hi Gabor, the 2 pairs of prescutellar ac are OK for P. perdita. Also, frons width is OK (said to be twice as wide as width of flagellomere, so rather broad for a male Phaonia). It is present in the gallery, see Nikita's photo. For the website you have mentionned, there were numerous IDs to correct... Stephane. |
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| Xespok |
Posted on 24-12-2007 08:59
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Member Location: Debrecen, Hungary Posts: 5550 Joined: 02.03.05 |
Thx Stephane, now I am completely convinced. Somehow I overlooked Nikita's image. And google also did not come up with it.
Gabor Keresztes Japan Wildlife Gallery Carpathian Basin Wildlife Gallery |
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