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 Pangonius?
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| Arend Breukel |
Posted on 17-12-2007 16:25
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Member Location: Posts: 5 Joined: 08.12.07 |
Is it a Pangonius and can anybody help me further? Picture taken in june, south of France, Causse de Larzac, alt ca 850 m Arend Breukel attached the following image:  [190.6Kb] |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 17-12-2007 20:40
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18832 Joined: 21.07.04 |
What is the white blurr on the abdomen ? It's not symmetrical, so it must be artificial. If you remove this blurr, and make the antennae and tibiae reddish brown instead of this bloodyred, then it would be Pangonius micans. Did you photoshop it ? Theo |
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| Kahis |
Posted on 18-12-2007 03:28
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 Member Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 1999 Joined: 02.09.04 |
Zeegers wrote: What is the white blurr on the abdomen ? It's not symmetrical, so it must be artificial. Err ... it looks symmetrical to to me. And there are also pale bands along the sides of the abdomen. Kahis |
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| Arend Breukel |
Posted on 18-12-2007 09:52
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Member Location: Posts: 5 Joined: 08.12.07 |
Thanks for your comment, The white spot is real, I did not fotoshop. Attached an other pic of the same fly, it was a big one, copare with the Mylabris variabilis.
Arend Breukel attached the following image:  [152.44Kb] |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 18-12-2007 18:34
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18832 Joined: 21.07.04 |
The only species that makes sense in Pangonius micans, indeed. If so, this specimen is highly atypical. Is is collected ? Theo |
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| Andre |
Posted on 19-12-2007 10:46
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 Member Location: Tilburg, the Netherlands Posts: 2111 Joined: 18.07.04 |
Griseipennis, haustellatus and mauritanus are also known for France (Faunaeur.org). No idea however, how they look like  . |
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| Sundew |
Posted on 19-12-2007 17:02
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 Member Location: Berlin and Baden-Württemberg, Germany Posts: 3916 Joined: 28.07.07 |
The individual depicted in http://www.galeri...icans.html has light zones on the abdomen, too... Sundew |
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| Tony T |
Posted on 19-12-2007 20:12
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 Member Location: New Brunswick, Canada Posts: 663 Joined: 08.02.07 |
Chvala et al. 1972. The Horse Flies of Europe, describes the abdomen of micans: "... tergite 1 densely light grey dusted. Sides of tergite 2 and large median triangles on tergites 2-3 or to 4 silvery-grey haired, the median triangles usually form a median stripe;" This description seems to fit the current image. |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 19-12-2007 20:59
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18832 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Well, it looks unnatural as compared with my collection. I'm starting to think the flash is the cause of this. Anyway, you have convinced me it is indeed micans. Thanks Theo |
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