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Calliphora vomitoria ?
Joerg
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Posted on 03-11-2021 20:05
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Is this Calliphora vomitoria ?
Germany, Hannover, 14. June 2021
Any help would be appreciate

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Hi Jörg, correct.
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Hi Eric,

thanks a lot for the confirmation.

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Are you sure it is not loewi ?

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Hi Theo, I am (or was?) because I see the orange beard. And loewi's "white beauty spot" (Blowflies, Olga Sivell) in the parafacial is not visible.
Edited by eklans on 04-11-2021 09:51
Greetings, Eric Kloeckner
 
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The red beard, I don’t see it. This is a red beard

https://diptera.info/photogallery.php?photo_id=6393


So I am not convinced (yet).

Theo


 
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I have created an enlarged pic of the head, i hope this helps.

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In vomitoria, the red hairs should be present on gena as well. In male, the vertex is about as broad as distance between posterior ocelli (those included). I see neither (vertex looks smaller to me).

In loewi, some light hairs are present on occiput behind the several row of black hairs . The white spot on parafacial is visible from specific angles only..


So I am still indecisive, but definitely not ruling out loewi.

 
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It's a bit unlucky as the orange hairs are hardly to see on the green leaf but I think they are visible on the gena, too.
I'll add images dorsally/laterally of loewi of 2019-06-21 and vomitoria of 2020-09-15 where we see that (what I think is) loewi has dark hairs on the gena.
1st vomitoria
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Greetings, Eric Kloeckner
 
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2nd loewi
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Hi Theo and Eric,

thanks for your participation, this helps me a lot.

Greetings
Joerg
 
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