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New Phaonia (female) -> Helina impuncta
Axel D
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Posted on 10-10-2021 19:27
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Hello

Although my previous thread remained unanswered, I try to post a new Phaonia on the forum. I'm not sure if this fly belongs to the tuguriorum/scutellata group or anything else because it has orange legs and underlined transversal veins, but the scutellum doesn't seem to have an orange tip. What do you think about this fly ?

Thank you in advance.

Found today (10th of October 2021) in a forest border in Rosny-Sous-Bois (Seine-Saint-Denis, Île-de-France, France).
Body length : 7/8 mm
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Hi Axel, to be sure, more images were helpful - but I think it could be a Helina impuncta (I cannot see the "Phaonia bristle" on the hind tibia, the eyes are sparsely hairy).
Greetings, Eric Kloeckner
 
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Thank you for your answer. I have other pictures (an intermediate angle of view and a closer dorsal view) but I'm not sure they are be useful.
 
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They could be useful - just give it a try.
Greetings, Eric Kloeckner
 
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OK I add them.

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Yes, that helped - pretty sure, it's the female Helina impuncta.
Greetings, Eric Kloeckner
 
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Thanks a lot.
 
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