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Calliphoridae (♀♂) Melinda or Bellardia or ?
eklans
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Posted on 21-08-2021 10:31
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Hi, these flies where found in Ansbach, DE-Franconia, Frankenhoehe Nature Park, old deciduous forest, 2020-08-19. I've identified it as Melinda gentilis but according to the discussions in the thread:
https://diptera.i...ost_425313
I wonder if it could be different ones?
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Female is totally OK. Male has a darkened calypter and abdomen seems more bronze than blue (to me) … so should be Bellardia.

Bellardia is about the most common Calliphorid, so I am a bit surprised / worried you have only seen four so far (or five, that is)

Theo
 
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Four species (bayeri, pandia, viarum, vulgaris), but more than 200 photos since 2016.
And one bayeri tries to climb C. vomitoria.
Thanks Theo, I will try to indentify the 5th Bellardia now - hopefully it's pusilla.
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I think the abdomen is blue (the blurry photo shows more of the abdomen) and I hope my question is not too stupid: what about Calliphora loewi?
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You are right, the third antennal segment is too ling for Bellardia.
And you might try to check the number of IA bristles, I think I see 3 post IA (which would make it Onesia)

Theo
 
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Posted on 21-08-2021 15:23
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yes, 3 pst ia - but 1 pre ia? And isn't thorax too blue for Onesia?
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