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 Bibionidae: Bibio venosus
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| ESant |
Posted on 22-07-2021 16:16
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Member Location: L'Aquila, Italy Posts: 2127 Joined: 20.09.20 |
Hello, I photographed this fly near Passo delle Capannelle (AQ), Italy, 1400m a.s.l. on June 5th 2021. I think it is a Bibionidae, but is it possible to identify its genus or species from these photos? Thank you in advance, Emanuele ESant attached the following image:  [295.01Kb] Edited by ESant on 23-07-2021 21:10 |
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| ESant |
Posted on 22-07-2021 16:16
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Member Location: L'Aquila, Italy Posts: 2127 Joined: 20.09.20 |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 23-07-2021 08:18
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18823 Joined: 21.07.04 |
The only option is Bibio venosus. Do you have this species ? Theo |
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| ESant |
Posted on 23-07-2021 15:08
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Member Location: L'Aquila, Italy Posts: 2127 Joined: 20.09.20 |
Thank you Theo! According to Fauna Europaea and the Checklist of Italian Fauna, B. venosus is not present in Italy. |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 23-07-2021 15:32
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18823 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Yes, I was afraid of that. So either I am wrong or … it is new for Italy. Let me think on that. You did not collect it, did you ? Theo Edited by Zeegers on 23-07-2021 18:21 |
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| Colobo |
Posted on 23-07-2021 18:07
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Member Location: Switzerland Posts: 81 Joined: 03.05.07 |
It is B. venosus. But this species has already been recorded from Italy (Trentino-Alto Adige) by Vanin (2006: Phenological and altitudinal distribution of Bibionidae in Southern Alps. Studia dipterologica 13: 11-18). An updated checklist of Bibionidae of Italy can be found in Haenni (2008: Diptera Stelviana. Vol. 1. Studia dipterologica Suppl. 16: 141-146). |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 23-07-2021 18:22
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18823 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Thanks Jean- Paul ! I could hardly be wrong on this one, couldn’t I ? Theo |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 23-07-2021 18:24
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18823 Joined: 21.07.04 |
That said, this is very much more to the south. I have the species from the northernmost region in Greece (Prespa) Theo |
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| ESant |
Posted on 23-07-2021 21:09
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Member Location: L'Aquila, Italy Posts: 2127 Joined: 20.09.20 |
Thank you both very much! I also have photos of another specimen found in the same area.
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| ESant |
Posted on 23-07-2021 21:09
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Member Location: L'Aquila, Italy Posts: 2127 Joined: 20.09.20 |
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ESant attached the following image:  [285.68Kb] |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 23-07-2021 22:21
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18823 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Yes, you do ! Theo |
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| Colobo |
Posted on 24-07-2021 09:20
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Member Location: Switzerland Posts: 81 Joined: 03.05.07 |
You are right, Theo, but it is true that this species is also present in Northern Greece, even farther South. Jean-Paul |
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