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Bibionidae: Bibio venosus
ESant
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Posted on 22-07-2021 17:16
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Hello,

I photographed this fly near Passo delle Capannelle (AQ), Italy, 1400m a.s.l. on June 5th 2021. I think it is a Bibionidae, but is it possible to identify its genus or species from these photos?

Thank you in advance,
Emanuele
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Posted on 23-07-2021 09:18
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The only option is Bibio venosus. Do you have this species ?

Theo
 
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Posted on 23-07-2021 16:08
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Thank you Theo! According to Fauna Europaea and the Checklist of Italian Fauna, B. venosus is not present in Italy.
 
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Yes, I was afraid of that. So either I am wrong or … it is new for Italy. Let me think on that.

You did not collect it, did you ?

Theo
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Posted on 23-07-2021 19:07
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It is B. venosus. But this species has already been recorded from Italy (Trentino-Alto Adige) by Vanin (2006: Phenological and altitudinal distribution of Bibionidae in Southern Alps. Studia dipterologica 13: 11-18).
An updated checklist of Bibionidae of Italy can be found in Haenni (2008: Diptera Stelviana. Vol. 1. Studia dipterologica Suppl. 16: 141-146).
 
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Posted on 23-07-2021 19:22
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Thanks Jean- Paul !

I could hardly be wrong on this one, couldn’t I ?

Theo
 
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Posted on 23-07-2021 19:24
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That said, this is very much more to the south.
I have the species from the northernmost region in Greece (Prespa)

Theo
 
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Thank you both very much! I also have photos of another specimen found in the same area.
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Yes, you do !

Theo
 
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Posted on 24-07-2021 10:20
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You are right, Theo, but it is true that this species is also present in Northern Greece, even farther South.
Jean-Paul
 
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