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lynkos
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Posted on 21-11-2005 07:05
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The victim looks like a Drosophila, but I'm less sure about the predator. Could it be a Tachinidae?

www.naturamediterraneo.com/Public/data2/lynkos/OSNB05-C03-F.jpg_2005112165810_OSNB05-C03-F.jpg

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Posted on 21-11-2005 14:06
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Hi Sarah,


From this view the fly looks remarkably like a Tachinid, but it can't be.
A Tachinid would never (?) attack another fly.
Moreover, the abdominal pattern does not ring a bell.
So, it should be somewhere in Anthomyiidae / Muscidae.

But it fooled me for some time, too !


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Posted on 21-11-2005 14:56
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The 'headhunter' is a muscid (can't say anything definite about the genus Sad). I think you are right about the prey being a drosophilid.
Edited by Kahis on 21-11-2005 14:57
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Thanks Theo and Kahis. I'm still very bad at distinguishing between Tachinidae, Anthomyiidae and Muscidae. I don't suppose there are any easy pointers that might help me Wink? Sarah
 
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Could it be Coenosia attenuata? Sarah
 
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Posted on 21-11-2005 21:50
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Hi Sarah

The question to your answer Anthomyiidae / Tachinidae is really very simple:

nearly all Tachinidae have vein M in wing strongly curved upwards
(as in both Calliphoridae and Sarcophagidae)
hardly any Muscidae (Musca, Neomyia, ...) and no Anthomyiidae have this feature: all vein M straight.

But one can't see the wing venation in the picture, alas

Theo
 
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Posted on 22-11-2005 07:13
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Thanks Theo. Next time I'll try and take at least one picture with the wing venation showing so I can study it with calm, Sarah
 
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Details of chaetotaxy are not visible but considering its coloration (especially legs) it could be a male of Cenosia tigrina, Muscidae.

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