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Platycheirus sticticus male?
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Posted on 06-09-2010 15:30
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Frown

I'm not Catholic.

But I will consider what you are asking, and ask whatever gods to forgive me if I should be able do it. I can put my foot on a Lily beetle, but somehow can't catch these to kill! Insect apartheid. Pfft
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What did the Lily beetle ever do to you?

Thanks, I really appreciate this!
Please, catch what you can. Would you like to send them to me?
Please contact me in a private message or email, okay?
And, if I ever can return you the favor... just ask!

Hurry, maybe you'll still find some right now! Catch many! :-)

Hugs, André
 
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Andre, I have been naming my photos from the 5th, the same day I took the last pics of the male.

I have a female which I took in the same place, only a little over 1 minute before I took the pics of the male.

The face profile looks very much the same! What about those black hairs between the eyes? Even the spots look to have the same shape from the little that can be seen.

I only got one pic, I cropped the head off for a closer view.
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I hold this one for P. scutatus or splendidus Smile
Even with a good shot of the face difficult to separate from a picture.
 
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Andre wrote:
I hold this one for P. scutatus or splendidus Smile
Even with a good shot of the face difficult to separate from a picture.


That is interesting, I had looked at the pics of females I have named P. scutatus, it does have some black hairs between the eyes but nowhere near as much as that one. Yes, difficult as you say from pictures!

I also think I was wondering if Ihad a male P. splendidus but in the end decided against, I will have to go through all my pics carefully again.
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The black long hairs on the frons is not a useful character. It is the fine silverish dusting that is important to separate these species...
 
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Darling, it is clear that you caught the wrong one... You caught Platycheirus albimanus, which has very different spots on the abdomen than the 'mysterious one' above.
That is why I hoped you would catch sooner and more....
Too bad.... a missed opportunity Sad
 
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Yup, I had thought that too when I tried to get good pics after the event but it was difficut to see properly so had to send it just in case.

I hadn't seen any more after that, but I do have pics of one I had seen feeding on the Agastache a little earlier on the same day which looks to be the same as the first fly. Now there are very few around of any species.

Maybe a missed opportunity, can't win them all. The record is here to forever taunt you now! Wink
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