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 Heleomyzidae - Andrzej, help please!
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| eurythyrea |
Posted on 25-09-2010 18:35
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Member Location: Posts: 118 Joined: 13.05.10 |
Dear friends, I foud this fly today in Hungary in a beech forest. Its size was 6mm long, unfortunately I have no dorsal view, after this photo it lew away. Which genus it could be? Thank you, Nikola Rahmé Edited by eurythyrea on 25-09-2010 19:11 |
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| Stephen R |
Posted on 25-09-2010 18:41
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 Member Location: Clitheroe Lancashire UK Posts: 2396 Joined: 12.06.09 |
Heleomyzidae
Edited by Stephen R on 25-09-2010 18:42 |
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| eurythyrea |
Posted on 25-09-2010 18:54
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Member Location: Posts: 118 Joined: 13.05.10 |
Thank you Stephen! I found here on the gallery Schroederella is similar... but I do not know. Nikola |
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| Stephen R |
Posted on 25-09-2010 19:05
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Member Location: Clitheroe Lancashire UK Posts: 2396 Joined: 12.06.09 |
I was thinking more of Suillia. If you edit the title line to 'Heleomyzidae', Andrzej will tell you what it is. |
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| rvanderweele |
Posted on 25-09-2010 19:10
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Member Location: Leiden, the Netherlands Posts: 1988 Joined: 01.11.06 |
Certainly no Suillia, since it has a propleural bristle
ruud van der weele rvanderweele@gmail.com |
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| rvanderweele |
Posted on 25-09-2010 19:11
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Member Location: Leiden, the Netherlands Posts: 1988 Joined: 01.11.06 |
And also no Sciomyzidae, Nikola, since it has a vibrissa
ruud van der weele rvanderweele@gmail.com |
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| rvanderweele |
Posted on 25-09-2010 19:13
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Member Location: Leiden, the Netherlands Posts: 1988 Joined: 01.11.06 |
And no Schroederella, because the fly on the photo has just 1 sternopleural bristle
ruud van der weele rvanderweele@gmail.com |
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| rvanderweele |
Posted on 25-09-2010 19:16
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Member Location: Leiden, the Netherlands Posts: 1988 Joined: 01.11.06 |
A pity that you have no dorsal picture. I think it has no prescutelar bristles, so it can be an eccoptomera. Let wait for Andrzej
ruud van der weele rvanderweele@gmail.com |
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| Stephane Lebrun |
Posted on 25-09-2010 19:22
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 Member Location: Le Havre, France Posts: 8248 Joined: 03.03.07 |
I'd say Eccoptomera.
Stephane. |
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| eurythyrea |
Posted on 25-09-2010 19:26
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Thank you folks, I saw it on faunaeur.org, there is 19 species of Eccoptomera, longiseta does live in Hungary too. Next time i'll collect it  |
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| rvanderweele |
Posted on 25-09-2010 19:34
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Member Location: Leiden, the Netherlands Posts: 1988 Joined: 01.11.06 |
There are 6 species from Hungary known, as far as I know. I am not really sure which species, but I can imagine it is E. pallescens. But again,Andrzej will know and if he is not sure, we certainly will never know ;-)
ruud van der weele rvanderweele@gmail.com |
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| rvanderweele |
Posted on 25-09-2010 19:37
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Member Location: Leiden, the Netherlands Posts: 1988 Joined: 01.11.06 |
Forgot to say, Nikola, it is a great photo. I love it.
ruud van der weele rvanderweele@gmail.com |
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| eurythyrea |
Posted on 25-09-2010 19:40
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Thank you Ruud, and all of you. Genus is more than enough for me! Nikola |
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| rvanderweele |
Posted on 25-09-2010 19:54
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Member Location: Leiden, the Netherlands Posts: 1988 Joined: 01.11.06 |
OMG,Nikola, when you go for place No.2 you will never arrive at No.1! ;-)
ruud van der weele rvanderweele@gmail.com |
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| Andrzej |
Posted on 25-09-2010 20:22
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Member Location: Poland Posts: 2443 Joined: 05.01.06 |
Eccoptomera longiseta :-) Andrzej Dr. A. J. Woznica, Institute of Biology, Wroclaw University of Environmental & Life Sciences. Poland |
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| eurythyrea |
Posted on 25-09-2010 20:24
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Andrzej, THANK YOU!  |
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| rvanderweele |
Posted on 25-09-2010 20:29
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Member Location: Leiden, the Netherlands Posts: 1988 Joined: 01.11.06 |
And you let it fly away, Nikola. I do not have longiseta in my collection. Ur istenem ;-)
ruud van der weele rvanderweele@gmail.com |
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| eurythyrea |
Posted on 25-09-2010 20:34
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Member Location: Posts: 118 Joined: 13.05.10 |
Ruud, I'll go back for that specimen, I promise! |
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| rvanderweele |
Posted on 25-09-2010 20:39
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Member Location: Leiden, the Netherlands Posts: 1988 Joined: 01.11.06 |
sure, and you won't be back on diptera.info before you collected the specimen for me. You see my kindness...I do not even insist on a couple 
ruud van der weele rvanderweele@gmail.com |
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| Andrzej |
Posted on 25-09-2010 20:47
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Member Location: Poland Posts: 2443 Joined: 05.01.06 |
the specimen is not important ! the pic is enough to see the characters. It is the only one European species with such body colouration
Dr. A. J. Woznica, Institute of Biology, Wroclaw University of Environmental & Life Sciences. Poland |
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