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 Ariasella lusitanica, Hybotidae
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| Rui Andrade |
Posted on 06-03-2008 16:41
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 Member Location: Portugal Posts: 3122 Joined: 19.06.07 |
Hi, I found this wingless fly in Barcelos, Portugal on the 2nd of March 2008. Is it possible to tell something about it?  
Edited by Rui Andrade on 09-10-2009 23:52 |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 06-03-2008 16:43
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 Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19375 Joined: 11.05.04 |
I hope you can send it to me: It is a wingless hybotid and I'd be very happy to add it to my collection. 
Paul - - - - Paul Beuk on https://diptera.info |
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| Rui Andrade |
Posted on 06-03-2008 16:49
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Member Location: Portugal Posts: 3122 Joined: 19.06.07 |
Hi Paul, I already put it in alcohol, I hope I did it right. |
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| Andre |
Posted on 06-03-2008 17:24
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 Member Location: Tilburg, the Netherlands Posts: 2111 Joined: 18.07.04 |
If you give it to Jorge... Jorge can deliver it to me by the end of march when I am in Batalha |
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| igor |
Posted on 06-03-2008 18:09
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Member Location: Posts: 294 Joined: 23.11.06 |
Hi, This is Tachydromia, probably an undescribed species (I will check once again). Unfortunately, it is a female. Did you collect only a single specimen? Currently, Patrick Grootaert and me prepare a world revision of this genus. There have been found a few wingless species of Tachydromia. All the best,  Igor Shamshev |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 06-03-2008 18:19
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 Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9295 Joined: 05.06.06 |
Ok. I will pick up the fly of Andrade and deliver it to Andre... |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 06-03-2008 18:20
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9295 Joined: 05.06.06 |
Did you find it dead? |
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| Rui Andrade |
Posted on 06-03-2008 18:20
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Member Location: Portugal Posts: 3122 Joined: 19.06.07 |
Unfortunetly I only have one . This is a very small fly and I think it will be very difficult to find another one, but I will try. |
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| Rui Andrade |
Posted on 06-03-2008 18:23
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Member Location: Portugal Posts: 3122 Joined: 19.06.07 |
jorgemotalmeida wrote: Did you find it dead? No, I found it alive but I only had the opportunity to photograph it now, and meanwhile it died. |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 06-03-2008 18:24
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9295 Joined: 05.06.06 |
Did you find this one in the place you showed to me before? I remember a photo where you found vermileonid larvae.  |
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| Rui Andrade |
Posted on 06-03-2008 18:38
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Member Location: Portugal Posts: 3122 Joined: 19.06.07 |
jorgemotalmeida wrote: Did you find this one in the place you showed to me before? I remember a photo where you found vermileonid larvae. Yes |
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| Rui Andrade |
Posted on 06-03-2008 20:45
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Member Location: Portugal Posts: 3122 Joined: 19.06.07 |
I forgot to thank you all for your help, thank you |
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| Rui Andrade |
Posted on 08-03-2008 20:31
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Member Location: Portugal Posts: 3122 Joined: 19.06.07 |
Today I went to Barcelos, and I found more Tachydromia I collected 4 specimens that are in the four photos below. Is there a male among them (I don't know how to separate both sexes)? On the first photo we can see two lengthy structures on the thorax that are absent on the other specimens. What are those? 1  2  3  4 
Edited by Rui Andrade on 08-03-2008 20:35 |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 08-03-2008 20:45
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Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19375 Joined: 11.05.04 |
Those 'were' the 'wings'. I hope you collected enough of them to serve us all?
Paul - - - - Paul Beuk on https://diptera.info |
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| Tony Irwin |
Posted on 08-03-2008 21:11
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 Member Location: Norwich, England Posts: 7236 Joined: 19.11.04 |
Evidently the male has vestigial wings, while the female has no wings at all. Great photos of a new species. Well done Rui! 
Tony ---------- Tony Irwin |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 08-03-2008 21:46
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9295 Joined: 05.06.06 |
WOWOW!! Well done, Andrade! Next weekend I will go there I saw Hybotids here too today but no one was wingless. Platypalpus spp.j? sabes.. |
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| Rui Andrade |
Posted on 09-03-2008 09:26
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Member Location: Portugal Posts: 3122 Joined: 19.06.07 |
Thank you very much Paul, Tony and Jorge. It seems that this species is common in Barcelos because I didn't have any difficulty finding the specimens. So, don't worry Paul, there is enough specimens for all of you . |
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| Rui Andrade |
Posted on 09-03-2008 20:56
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Member Location: Portugal Posts: 3122 Joined: 19.06.07 |
Today I saw many more of them. Once I had six of them in my field of vision .I also saw one male feeding on a little dipteran. Does someone have an idea of what could the prey be?  |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 09-03-2008 20:58
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9295 Joined: 05.06.06 |
jeeeee... like a sword stoling the life of a nematoceran fly. |
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| Kahis |
Posted on 09-03-2008 21:02
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 Member Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 1999 Joined: 02.09.04 |
The prey is probably a sciarid. Great find! "Tachydromia ruii"
Kahis |
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