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 Oplisa atterima (John Sherkosky); SW Spain
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| Andre Burgers |
Posted on 11-02-2025 17:29
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 Member Location: Minas de Riotinto, Huelva Province, Spain Posts: 1083 Joined: 23.04.10 |
A small black fly on my balcony, hiding from the cold. Minas de Riotinto, February 6, 2025. Any idea? ¡Gracias! Andre Burgers attached the following image:  [289.88Kb] Edited by Andre Burgers on 12-02-2025 17:02 errare humanum est sed perseverare diabolicum |
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| Andre Burgers |
Posted on 11-02-2025 17:30
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Member Location: Minas de Riotinto, Huelva Province, Spain Posts: 1083 Joined: 23.04.10 |
2nd photo
Andre Burgers attached the following image:  [283.66Kb] errare humanum est sed perseverare diabolicum |
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| John Carr |
Posted on 11-02-2025 18:13
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 Member Location: Massachusetts, USA Posts: 10300 Joined: 22.10.10 |
Muscidae? |
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| Andre Burgers |
Posted on 11-02-2025 18:30
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Member Location: Minas de Riotinto, Huelva Province, Spain Posts: 1083 Joined: 23.04.10 |
John Carr wrote: Muscidae? Yes, that could be. I will look into Muscidae and see what I can find. Thanks again, John! errare humanum est sed perseverare diabolicum |
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 11-02-2025 21:07
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 Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9382 Joined: 24.05.05 |
Muscidae? I wish I knew... Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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| Andre Burgers |
Posted on 11-02-2025 21:31
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Member Location: Minas de Riotinto, Huelva Province, Spain Posts: 1083 Joined: 23.04.10 |
Thanks Nikita!  Things are getting difficult. Interesting! errare humanum est sed perseverare diabolicum |
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| John Carr |
Posted on 11-02-2025 23:31
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Member Location: Massachusetts, USA Posts: 10300 Joined: 22.10.10 |
The anal vein appears incomplete and the hind tibia is weakly bristled compared to Anthomyiidae. The black color and small calypters have me thinking of the Azeliini. If it is in that tribe Nikita Vikhrev should recognize it. And he doesn't. The three strong anterior spines on the fore femur are found in some Fannia. This is not a Fannia. |
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| Andre Burgers |
Posted on 12-02-2025 07:52
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Member Location: Minas de Riotinto, Huelva Province, Spain Posts: 1083 Joined: 23.04.10 |
Thanks, John, for this clear information. I'll study these characteristics and try to figure things out. It's going to be difficult, since you two experts haven't reached a conclusion. ¡Saludos! André errare humanum est sed perseverare diabolicum |
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 12-02-2025 15:22
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Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9382 Joined: 24.05.05 |
Today morning I've got e-mail from John Sherkosky who present himself as "Calliphoridae and polleniidae expert as a hobby" Rather expert than hobby, because he gave me answer with which I quite agree: His answer is: Oplisa atterima, Rhinophoridae !!! Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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| John Carr |
Posted on 12-02-2025 15:35
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Member Location: Massachusetts, USA Posts: 10300 Joined: 22.10.10 |
Nikita Vikhrev wrote: Today morning I've got e-mail from John Sherkosky who present himself as "Calliphoridae and polleniidae expert as a hobby" Rather expert than hobby, because he gave me answer with which I quite agree: His answer is: Oplisa atterima, Rhinophoridae !!! I like that. I convinced myself the M vein looked incomplete because of a torn wing. It really is incomplete, as often happens in Rhinophoridae. |
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 12-02-2025 15:43
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Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9382 Joined: 24.05.05 |
Looking at good photos I filled myself as a madman. What a pleasure to know correct answer!
Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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| Andre Burgers |
Posted on 12-02-2025 17:01
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Member Location: Minas de Riotinto, Huelva Province, Spain Posts: 1083 Joined: 23.04.10 |
You guys are incredible!!! Nikita, thank John Sherkosky for the ID of my fly. One of the problems with this fly was its colour, almost pure black. Difficult to observe structures. But you did it! Again, thanks to the three of you! ¡Saludos! 
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 15-02-2025 13:02
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Administrator Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18888 Joined: 21.07.04 |
The strong hairs on basal part of costa are a big clue, once you have spotted them Theo |
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| Andre Burgers |
Posted on 15-02-2025 14:59
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Member Location: Minas de Riotinto, Huelva Province, Spain Posts: 1083 Joined: 23.04.10 |
Thanks, Theo! I will copy this info!
errare humanum est sed perseverare diabolicum |
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