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 Athericidae? Empididae? or Rhagionidae, so confused!
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| Gnats2meetu |
Posted on 02-03-2010 10:43
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 Member Location: York, U.K. Posts: 288 Joined: 06.07.09 |
 Hi everyone, I would be much appreciated if you could cast your knowledgeable minds over pictures of this mysterious fly. I think it is an empid but I have never seen one with the kidney-shaped antennae that it has!Its CUP cell is relatively short and does not extend to the wing margin like Athericidae pictures in the books i'm reading. kindest regards, Rob Gnats2meetu attached the following image:  [31.69Kb] Edited by Gnats2meetu on 02-03-2010 10:56 Bobby D Jorvík |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 02-03-2010 11:02
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 Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19321 Joined: 11.05.04 |
Compare with Gloma fuscipennis of the Empididae (or Brachystomatidae in more modern classifications).
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| Gnats2meetu |
Posted on 02-03-2010 11:44
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Member Location: York, U.K. Posts: 288 Joined: 06.07.09 |
Here is a plan view
Gnats2meetu attached the following image:  [14.62Kb] Edited by Gnats2meetu on 02-03-2010 11:54 Bobby D Jorvík |
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| Gnats2meetu |
Posted on 02-03-2010 11:54
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Member Location: York, U.K. Posts: 288 Joined: 06.07.09 |
Head view
Gnats2meetu attached the following image:  [17.88Kb] Bobby D Jorvík |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 02-03-2010 12:28
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Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19321 Joined: 11.05.04 |
I cannot see the reniform antennae clearly in these picture, but if the third segment is clearly twice as high as the second segment, then it certainly is Gloma fuscipennis. Everything else fits quite nicely.
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| pwalter |
Posted on 02-03-2010 15:40
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 Member Location: Miskolc, Hungary Posts: 3555 Joined: 06.11.08 |
Nice find! Pls tell us the habitat and location! Walter Walter Pfliegler - Amateur Nature Photographer from Hungary (and molecular biologist) |
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| Gnats2meetu |
Posted on 02-03-2010 17:49
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Member Location: York, U.K. Posts: 288 Joined: 06.07.09 |
Thanks a million guys. Sorry Paul the antennae are hard to make out from the photo i posted but I assure you they are reniform. It was found in a plantation canopy of sitka and norweigen spruce in Ireland.
Bobby D Jorvík |
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