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| Sundew |
Posted on 07-10-2007 23:15
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 Member Location: Berlin and Baden-Württemberg, Germany Posts: 3890 Joined: 28.07.07 |
Hi, Is there a chance to identify this Tipulid from Berlin? I guess it is not too rare, and the wing pattern is conspicuous. Something like Tipula scripta? Thanks, Sundew Sundew attached the following image:  [156.41Kb] |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 08-10-2007 03:47
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 Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
Tipula sp. I think. Young will help here.  |
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| Chen Young |
Posted on 30-10-2007 16:43
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 Member Location: Pittsburgh, PENNSYLVANIA USA Posts: 169 Joined: 25.08.05 |
Any further id needs take a peek of the genitalia...... |
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| Chris Lewis |
Posted on 01-11-2007 08:53
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 Member Location: Essex, England Posts: 85 Joined: 03.08.06 |
I seem to be working on the same fly. I think Philippe Moniotte's tipulid posted 31/10 is also the same though this fly measures ~13mm from palps to genitalia. I will send some more detailed pictures in the hope of a specific ID. This one was found in the Isles of Scilly regularly during late October
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| Chris Lewis |
Posted on 01-11-2007 08:56
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Member Location: Essex, England Posts: 85 Joined: 03.08.06 |
Lateral head and thorax
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| Chris Lewis |
Posted on 01-11-2007 08:58
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Member Location: Essex, England Posts: 85 Joined: 03.08.06 |
Lateral abdomen
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| Chris Lewis |
Posted on 01-11-2007 09:00
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Member Location: Essex, England Posts: 85 Joined: 03.08.06 |
Dorsal thorax |
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| Chris Lewis |
Posted on 01-11-2007 09:03
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Member Location: Essex, England Posts: 85 Joined: 03.08.06 |
Try again
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| Chris Lewis |
Posted on 01-11-2007 09:04
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Member Location: Essex, England Posts: 85 Joined: 03.08.06 |
Wing
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| Chris Lewis |
Posted on 01-11-2007 09:05
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Member Location: Essex, England Posts: 85 Joined: 03.08.06 |
and genitalia dorsal slightly extruded
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| Chen Young |
Posted on 01-11-2007 20:44
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Member Location: Pittsburgh, PENNSYLVANIA USA Posts: 169 Joined: 25.08.05 |
The genitalia suggested this crane fly is in the subgenus Tipula (Savtshenkia) group. Oosterbroek listed four species that occur in the Isles of Scilly: Tipula eugeni, T. jeekeli, T. serrulifera, and T. trinacria. Hope this will provide you with some lead. |
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| Chris Lewis |
Posted on 01-11-2007 23:45
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Member Location: Essex, England Posts: 85 Joined: 03.08.06 |
Thank-you. Interesting - three of the species you mention do not seem to appear on the British List (according to Dipterists Forum) and the remaining one (serrulifera) appears to be an endangered montane species. I'll keep searching - but may have to settle for Savtshenkia group. |
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| Sundew |
Posted on 03-11-2007 13:05
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Member Location: Berlin and Baden-Württemberg, Germany Posts: 3890 Joined: 28.07.07 |
Thanks to all that contributed to this thread! If even Chris's detail photos do not lead us further than to subgenus Tipula (Savtshenkia) group, we should gratefully accept this ID. Sundew |
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