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 Thereva plebeja?
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| piros |
Posted on 05-02-2013 00:49
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Member Location: Szeged, Hungary Posts: 1766 Joined: 04.01.12 |
Found in Szeged, S. Humgary, on 14.V.2010. Is It a female of Thereva plebeja? Thanks for any help in advance! Henrik piros attached the following image:  [180.34Kb] Edited by piros on 19-02-2013 22:41 |
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| piros |
Posted on 05-02-2013 00:49
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Member Location: Szeged, Hungary Posts: 1766 Joined: 04.01.12 |
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| piros |
Posted on 05-02-2013 00:50
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Member Location: Szeged, Hungary Posts: 1766 Joined: 04.01.12 |
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| piros |
Posted on 05-02-2013 00:51
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Member Location: Szeged, Hungary Posts: 1766 Joined: 04.01.12 |
Tip of the abdomen:
piros attached the following image:  [195.77Kb] |
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| piros |
Posted on 19-02-2013 22:39
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Member Location: Szeged, Hungary Posts: 1766 Joined: 04.01.12 |
A second chance? |
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| piros |
Posted on 02-03-2013 13:53
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Member Location: Szeged, Hungary Posts: 1766 Joined: 04.01.12 |
I would appreciate any suggestion! |
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| piros |
Posted on 02-03-2013 23:13
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Member Location: Szeged, Hungary Posts: 1766 Joined: 04.01.12 |
Any suggestion?? |
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| piros |
Posted on 05-04-2013 16:28
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Member Location: Szeged, Hungary Posts: 1766 Joined: 04.01.12 |
I just noticed that haltera is yellowish brown, so it can't be T. plebeja. It is probably a somewhat unusual/worn specimen of T. nobilitata. Thanks for your attention! Henrik |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 24-04-2013 20:52
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18711 Joined: 21.07.04 |
I disagree It looks very aberrant, not like any Thereva I have ever seen. Theo |
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| piros |
Posted on 24-04-2013 21:59
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Member Location: Szeged, Hungary Posts: 1766 Joined: 04.01.12 |
 So, what's your oppinion??? Anything, I mean... |
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| piros |
Posted on 24-04-2013 22:18
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Member Location: Szeged, Hungary Posts: 1766 Joined: 04.01.12 |
(I mean, thanks! ) |
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| Louis Boumans |
Posted on 25-04-2013 00:55
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Member Location: NO Oslo Posts: 262 Joined: 09.06.04 |
I have no idea, but just wanted to say these are lovely pictures! |
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| libor |
Posted on 25-04-2013 08:11
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Member Location: western Bohemia Posts: 1274 Joined: 30.05.09 |
I agree with Theo. Using Lyneborg & Spitzers' key for the former Czechoslovakia, it runs straight to nobilitata, but true nobilitata looks absolutely different, it is more yellowish species. Maybe any Balcan species, but I have not key on this region. I download the pictures and send them to Spitzer directly. Maybe he could say more. Did you collect it? Libor |
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| piros |
Posted on 25-04-2013 12:24
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Member Location: Szeged, Hungary Posts: 1766 Joined: 04.01.12 |
Many thanks to all of you! Unfortunately, I havn't collected it , at that time I didn't collect any flies... Dear Libor, of course, I would appreciate if you forwarded these pics to Spitzer! Kind regards, Henrik Edited by piros on 25-04-2013 15:35 |
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| libor |
Posted on 29-04-2013 20:13
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Member Location: western Bohemia Posts: 1274 Joined: 30.05.09 |
Reply from Ing. Spitzer: there are three possibilities. (1) Strange T. nobilitata. (2) Very atypical form T. handlirschi. (3) Any other species not known from central Europe yet. He promissed me to try to solve it, but from the pictures only... You know what I did not type :-) Henrik, I would highly appreciate any material of Rhagionidae and Therevidae from Hungary! Best wishes Libor |
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