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 Tachinidae? genus? = Spallanzania hebes
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| johnes81 |
Posted on 18-11-2017 15:10
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 Member Location: Berlin, Germany Posts: 1978 Joined: 15.10.16 |
Berlin - September 2016 I think that this is a Tachinidae. A genus will be nice and maybe a species is possible. I'll just hope for a genus. I hate the keys of Tschorsnig and I can't place it without genitalia and a specimen. I have tried. Sorry. Thank You for your Time. johnes81 attached the following image:  [200.89Kb] Edited by johnes81 on 20-11-2017 12:09 John and Nini. Naturalists not experts. |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 18-11-2017 17:10
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18711 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Where is it from ? Pseudogonia or similar. Theo |
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| johnes81 |
Posted on 18-11-2017 17:17
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Member Location: Berlin, Germany Posts: 1978 Joined: 15.10.16 |
Hello Theo, hope that you are well. it is from Berlin or do you mean habitat? I found it in sandy heathland. it was just sitting in the sandy area in the sunshine. I couldn't get many photos before it flew away. I know how difficult it can be to id something even with genitalia, so I don't expect more than a genus. I thought about Pseudogonia before but I cannot key it. As stated in this post, the photo was made in 2016. I gave up on this one; it is driving me nuts. 
John and Nini. Naturalists not experts. |
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| piros |
Posted on 19-11-2017 01:33
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Member Location: Szeged, Hungary Posts: 1766 Joined: 04.01.12 |
Could this be Spallanzania? Greetings, Henrik |
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| johnes81 |
Posted on 19-11-2017 12:30
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Member Location: Berlin, Germany Posts: 1978 Joined: 15.10.16 |
Hello Henrik, Spallanzania is a fantastic suggestion. I think that you may be correct. I've tried to key it and it matches with what is visible: two upright bristles beside the apex of the scutellum, reclinate ocellar bristles, pale basicosta and black tegula. Thank you for taking time to post, Henrik. I appreciate you edite: only Spallanzania hebes is listed for Germany. Edited by johnes81 on 19-11-2017 12:33 John and Nini. Naturalists not experts. |
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| johnes81 |
Posted on 19-11-2017 13:00
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Member Location: Berlin, Germany Posts: 1978 Joined: 15.10.16 |
here is a closeup showing the ocellar bristles, the scutellar bristles, basicosta and tegula. I've adjusted the midtone and sharpened the image.
johnes81 attached the following image:  [169.43Kb] John and Nini. Naturalists not experts. |
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| piros |
Posted on 20-11-2017 00:09
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Member Location: Szeged, Hungary Posts: 1766 Joined: 04.01.12 |
S. hebes was my first thought anyway... |
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| johnes81 |
Posted on 20-11-2017 12:09
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Member Location: Berlin, Germany Posts: 1978 Joined: 15.10.16 |
Thank You, Henrik. I was lost with this one. I cannot use the keys from Tschorsnig without a specimen. He starts with postsutural ia and after that it is a guessing game by photo. However, if one can get to a proper genus, then the keys are usually very good for id by photo. This one was too much. I ened up at strange genera trying to key it. I have no time to spend days on these keys. I've never seen this before, so the only similar species that I could think of as a match is Pseudogonia but it isn't correct. I didn't know about Spallanzania. I appreciate you for posting. I am very Thankful
John and Nini. Naturalists not experts. |
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