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Sapromyza obesa? SW Sweden 16 Jul 2015 -> Sapromyzosoma quadricincta
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Is it correct?
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abdomen
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yellow palpi
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S. obesa has ac in 4 rows, while the specimen in your photos has ac in 6 rows.
At the moment I really cannot say much more. I was thinking for a while of S. halidayi, but I am not sure at all. Maybe Paul Beuk can help?
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Thanks Ruud! Is there any important feature that isn't visible in the photos?
 
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Johane, I will be more than pleased to look at it. At the moment I am abroad. It is not easy here to check all the literature as my family expect me to enjoy the holiday with them and not just with 'stupid" flies.
I do not know S. obesa. I have the species mentioned in the literature. At the moment I am really unable to say anything. But maybe Paul can?
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I made some pictures of the genitalia. One of the parameres(?) has been broken off. I have no drawing to compare with, but maybe someone else has?
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right paramere
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I begin to think it is S. amabilis, but as I am not that familiar with this species, nor with S. obesa.....

Yet the palpen on the photo are yellow!

I hope Mark Mitschell will pay diptera.info a visit soon.
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I would appreciate help from more experts.
Shock

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Any particular reason why it cannot be Sapromyzosoma quadricincta?
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I think I was unsure of the colour of the abdomen? Is it certainly Sapromyzosoma quadricincta?
 
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Ocellar setae are outside the ocellar triangle, four rows of acrostichals. That would lead to that species.
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Thank you very much Paul!
 
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Why the heck did I ever think this is amabilis? Crazy. Of course it is S. quadricincta. Just look at those genitalia
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